Apple Seeds Fifth Beta of iOS 11.4 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]

Messages on iCloud will allow you to download all of your iMessages on new devices, and a message deleted on one device will remove it on all devices. Older messages and attachments are also stored in iCloud rather than on-device, saving valuable storage space.

Article Link: Apple Seeds Fifth Beta of iOS 11.4 to Developers ('https://www.macrumors.com/2018/05/14/apple-seeds-ios-11-4-beta-5-to-developers/')

Yes please! I've been waiting for this feature for a while. I guess we all have....

ClassKit sounds cool. I wish I were growing up today with notebooks and tablets with all of this new software. I still like the analog nature of pen and paper as well as chalk and a chalkboard, but kids today are having classroom experiences that we could only have dreamed about. School computer use when I was growing up was limited to playing the Oregon Trail on Apple IIe's and Carmen Sandiego and Flight Sim on a couple of early '90s Performas my school had. I remember installing all of the ID and 3D Realms shareware available on PCs in middle school. Duke Nukem 3D, Shadow Warrior, Blood, good times!
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Shoot... only 1.5GB available on my iPhone 6 16GB, and the update needs 2.35GB. I would have to delete a bunch of apps to make space and redownload. Tried the iTunes route but since it’s beta, 11.4b5 doesn’t appear. Does anyone have any helpful suggestions? Or am I going to have to delete to high heaven?

I’m waiting on the iPhone SE2 to upgrade, so no, “time for a new phone” won’t be helpful. ;)

I feel for you. 16 GB was enough back in the 3G days but not by 2014 and definitely not in 2018! My only current 16 GB device is my iPad Air. Even my ATV has more storage! I'm limited to only having some essential apps, photo stream and iTunes match to make room for the cool Swift Playgrounds which takes up the largest percentage of storage. I bought it for $300 sealed right before the iPad Air 2 was released. I couldn't pass up on that price even knowing that the lack of more storage would limit my enjoyment.

Just like the old times. Good’ol fashion computer. Vintage. But just good.

I also start knowing more about 1980s computers and find they are indeed rough to use but also fun to use.

My first computer was an IBM clone with an orange monochrome screen. A hand my down from my cousin in '93. I learned how to use DOS and the command line with it. While I was limited to using Lotus 123 and some basic text editor, it helped me learn how filesystems work which was great before I got my first real PC, a Pentium 75Mhz, 8 MB RAM Windows '95 PC that cost about $1800 in '95.

I must say that while using them today would be really rough and a struggle, they were more exciting to me back then than the latest tech we have today. It's like going back to standard def video after being used to 720p, 1080p and now even 4K. I guess because it was all so new to me. Using AOL was really like magic! I was also mesmerized by stuff like MS Encarta and playing back MPEG 1 video on a computer screen. There was really no on demand content back then except for movies on VHS, cassettes and CDs and of course my own recorded tapes. But to see video and play music on a computer for the first time was really special.

The more we have the more we take things for granted and the less we truly appreciate all of it. Today for a couple of hundred bucks one can build a PC, use a Linux distro (more easy to setup than ever) with tons of great open source software like Audacity, VLC, Gimp, Inkscape, DOSBox, MAME, the browser of your choice, an IDE like Eclipse and have an awesome first PC great for learning and playing. Or just an iPad for $329 that can do all sorts of things.

I wonder if Apple can get out all the features that should have been launched with iOS 11 before they even announce iOS 12.

My first computer was an IBM clone with an orange monochrome screen. A hand my down from my cousin in '93. I learned how to use DOS and the command line with it. While I was limited to using Lotus 123 and some basic text editor, it helped me learn how filesystems work which was great before I got my first real PC, a Pentium 75Mhz, 8 MB RAM Windows '95 PC that cost about $1800 in '95.

I must say that while using them today would be really rough and a struggle, they were more exciting to me back then than the latest tech we have today. It's like going back to standard def video after being used to 720p, 1080p and now even 4K. I guess because it was all so new to me. Using AOL was really like magic! I was also mesmerized by stuff like MS Encarta and playing back MPEG 1 video on a computer screen. There was really no on demand content back then except for movies on VHS, cassettes and CDs and of course my own recorded tapes. But to see video and play music on a computer for the first time was really special.

The more we have the more we take things for granted and the less we truly appreciate all of it. Today for a couple of hundred bucks one can build a PC, use a Linux distro (more easy to setup than ever) with tons of great open source software like Audacity, VLC, Gimp, Inkscape, DOSBox, MAME, the browser of your choice, an IDE like Eclipse and have an awesome first PC great for learning and playing. Or just an iPad for $329 that can do all sorts of things.

People says the millennium generation is the information generation. They know more about using modern tech than us, who are rapidly moving towards 30+. But, they also do not have the opportunity to experience the excitement we experienced. Back when I was still below 10, I played red alert after my parents leaving for an overnight shift. That was a very fun time. I knew how to play RTS and now I play Starcraft.
Now we have iOS 11.4, an operating system with features people from 1980 could only dream, but in turn, the iOS is less exciting and more boring as time goes on. I use iPhone every single day, but I do not think using iOS is that exciting anymore. It’s the small things like 3D Touch cursor ties me to this system.
Someone can probably open a new thread entirely for nostalgia purpose, and relive old memories from 1980s and 1990s. I will stop here for now.

Yes please! I've been waiting for this feature for a while. I guess we all have....

Except Apple Watch.....
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I hope this fixes the USB photos syncing issues between iTunes and many iOS devices that have been plaguing people since at least September.

iCloud messages will be a great feature to clean out Apple Watch messages.

(See:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8079251
)

Does not sync with Apple watch when deleting messages, only incoming...unless it does with this latest release