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Clauses in AT&T Contracts Have Always Provided for Limits on 'Unlimited' Data Plans
A number of customers have expressed outrage and disappointment at AT&T's various efforts at throttling users with older "unlimited" data plans. The most recent change slows unlimited data users to download speeds of 256 Kbps after using 3GB of data.
Several Twitter users felt that AT&T was violating their contract and wanted to cancel their contract or file a class action lawsuit against the company. Blogger Jeff Jarvis feels that throttling is "fraud", and tech writer Matt Buchanan had this to say:
The contract from June 26, 2007 -- just a few days before the original iPhone went on sale -- includes a number of stipulations governing exactly how and why the iPhone's unlimited data plan can be restricted, including banning some video downloading and streaming. Most importantly, for customers now experiencing throttling, is this passage:
Language similar to this continues in every draft of the contract through today's version. The current wireless customer agreement includes this language in section 6.2:
Not everyone agrees that AT&T is misbehaving by throttling. SplatF's Dan Frommer opines that users are not acknowledging reality when they complain about AT&T terminating unlimited data plans.
Several Twitter users felt that AT&T was violating their contract and wanted to cancel their contract or file a class action lawsuit against the company. Blogger Jeff Jarvis feels that throttling is "fraud", and tech writer Matt Buchanan had this to say:
I think it's fair to expect the contract you signed up for remains the contract you signed up for.But is AT&T's throttling of unlimited data users a violation of its contract with users? TOSBack is a website that tracks changes to the terms of service of various services, including both Apple and AT&T.
The contract from June 26, 2007 -- just a few days before the original iPhone went on sale -- includes a number of stipulations governing exactly how and why the iPhone's unlimited data plan can be restricted, including banning some video downloading and streaming. Most importantly, for customers now experiencing throttling, is this passage:
AT&T reserves the right to (i) limit throughput or amount of data transferred, deny Service and/or terminate Service, without notice, to anyone it believes is using the Service in any manner prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network or service levels or hinders access to its wireless network.
Language similar to this continues in every draft of the contract through today's version. The current wireless customer agreement includes this language in section 6.2:
AT&T reserves the right to (i) deny, disconnect, modify and/or terminate Service, without notice, to anyone it believes is using the Service in any manner prohibited or whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network or service levels or hinders access to its wireless network.AT&T believes that it is well within its rights to throttle users on unlimited data plans, even as a Californian iPhone user won an $850 small claims judgement against the company over throttling. AT&T has promised to appeal. A class action suit might be the normal evolution of such a complaint, but AT&T's subscriber contract prohibits class action or jury trials, leaving arbitration and small claims as options for unhappy customers.
Not everyone agrees that AT&T is misbehaving by throttling. SplatF's Dan Frommer opines that users are not acknowledging reality when they complain about AT&T terminating unlimited data plans.
Here’s the big picture bottom line: If you use a lot of data, you are clearly getting some sort of value out of it. Value isn’t free. The world’s finite resources simply aren’t trending toward free. That isn’t logical. I predict most of you will be spending significantly more per month for wireless data in 5 and 10 years than you do today. You’ll be getting faster and better service, and more value out of it, but it won’t be cheaper.AT&T's current data plans offer 300MB/month for $20, 3GB/month for $30, or 5GB/month for $50 (including tethering), with each additional 1GB costing users $10 on the higher allocation plans.
Please get over your emotional battle — and extinguish any legal threats, that’s silly — and join us in reality. If you use a lot of mobile data, be happy about it, and be happy paying for it. It’s worth it. And consider trying the add-on tethering plan for the iPhone, it can be useful if you carry a laptop or iPad.
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91 months ago
Who the hell still uses ATT?
It works where I need it too and Verizon doesn't, so why not? Why do people use Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon and others? That was probably one of the stupidest comments I have ever read on here. :rolleyes:
91 months ago
AT&T reserves the right to (i) limit throughput or amount of data transferred, deny Service and/or terminate Service, without notice, to anyone it believes is using the Service in any manner prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network or service levels or hinders access to its wireless network.
This does not deal with the situation at hand since they can't claim that 3G "negatively impacts wireless network or service levels" while turning around and selling 5G/month service to others.
91 months ago
Maybe they shouldn't have offered "Unlimited Data" when they didn't have the means to keep it up.
I know they're people who 'abuse' the network, but don't invite people when you don't have enough seats at the table.
I know they're people who 'abuse' the network, but don't invite people when you don't have enough seats at the table.
91 months ago
It's clearly not keeping with the spirit or intent of an unlimited data plan to simply cap the data and the cost at the same as a paid data plan - by definition this is not "unlimited".
I understand that it's fair to reasonably draw the line at some point, but this can effectively be done on a case-by-case basis where someone is truly and egregiously exceeding the mean usage by several standard deviations.
I understand that it's fair to reasonably draw the line at some point, but this can effectively be done on a case-by-case basis where someone is truly and egregiously exceeding the mean usage by several standard deviations.
91 months ago
I'm not that up in arms over the "unlimited" thing, although it does seem like a misnomer. I think the precedent which seems illegal is this part:
Having language that restricts how one is able to take a company to court seems...very much not okay.
A class action suit might be the normal evolution of such a complaint, but AT&T's subscriber contract prohibits class action or jury trials, leaving arbitration and small claims as options for unhappy customers.
Having language that restricts how one is able to take a company to court seems...very much not okay.
91 months ago
Who the hell still uses ATT?
Actually, a lot of people. :p
I've never had a problem with them either. Customer service has been top notch, my coverage and speeds are great, and I've never been throttled.
AT&T since '04. Unlimited since 11/'08.
91 months ago
Can that Dan Frommer guy sound like any more of a schill for AT&T?
Good Lord.. :rolleyes:
Good Lord.. :rolleyes:
91 months ago
Tethering?
Fine. I don't care if I'm "throttled" -- as long as it's not
throttled down to 5% of previous bandwidth, etc. I
don't use anywhere NEAR the top 50% of total data downloaded
per month, yet if everyone were to reduce, I would eventually
be in the top 5% -- that's bogus. Throttle me after a set
amount -- fine -- as long as the throughput is still USEABLE.
So, now that we've settled that I don't have unlimited data / bandwidth --
when can I get my tethering with my unlimited plan?
What's AT&T's excuse now to not allow me to tether?
Scott
Fine. I don't care if I'm "throttled" -- as long as it's not
throttled down to 5% of previous bandwidth, etc. I
don't use anywhere NEAR the top 50% of total data downloaded
per month, yet if everyone were to reduce, I would eventually
be in the top 5% -- that's bogus. Throttle me after a set
amount -- fine -- as long as the throughput is still USEABLE.
So, now that we've settled that I don't have unlimited data / bandwidth --
when can I get my tethering with my unlimited plan?
What's AT&T's excuse now to not allow me to tether?
Scott
91 months ago
I'll just repost something I've said before.
I'm so sick of this "hog" idea being thrown around for heavy data users. It's a bunch of BS. We are not pulling data from a big bucket that gets refilled once a month. By this I mean if a so called "hog" is using alot of data at 3am -6am is he really putting a strain on the network ? No, he is not.
Data is more like the local highway, during the off hours everything is going fine, not many people are on it, during prime hours it is slowed down. If att were smart they would say "Once you go over your 3 gb you will be throttled when the network is congested or between 8am - 6pm."
This way on the off hours you still get good speeds when there are less people on. The way it is now is nothing more than some sort of punishment for going over 3gb.
I'm so sick of this "hog" idea being thrown around for heavy data users. It's a bunch of BS. We are not pulling data from a big bucket that gets refilled once a month. By this I mean if a so called "hog" is using alot of data at 3am -6am is he really putting a strain on the network ? No, he is not.
Data is more like the local highway, during the off hours everything is going fine, not many people are on it, during prime hours it is slowed down. If att were smart they would say "Once you go over your 3 gb you will be throttled when the network is congested or between 8am - 6pm."
This way on the off hours you still get good speeds when there are less people on. The way it is now is nothing more than some sort of punishment for going over 3gb.
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