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Apple Likely Left Jony Ive Out of Its OpenAI Lawsuit on Purpose

Bloomberg's Mark Gurman says Apple's decision not to name its former design chief Jony Ive in its trade-secret lawsuit against OpenAI was likely a deliberate one, shaped in part by the company's relationship with Laurene Powell Jobs.

Jony Ive and Laurene Powell Jobs
Apple's roughly 40-page complaint refers only to unnamed "former Apple leaders" rather than calling out Ive, even though he leads design on OpenAI's hardware lineup through his firm LoveFrom, built on the back of OpenAI's $6.5 billion acquisition of his startup io Products. The allegations instead center on former iPhone executive Tang Tan, now OpenAI's chief hardware officer, whom Apple accuses of coaching recruits to bypass security measures and bring Apple hardware into interviews for "show-and-tell" sessions.

In the latest "Power On" newsletter, Gurman notes that Apple's decision likely reflects, at least in part, a genuine absence of evidence against Ive, who is reportedly not closely involved in OpenAI's day-to-day recruiting or engineering. He argues, however, that the relationship between Powell Jobs and Ive was also a significant factor. The two are described as close friends, with Ive having delivered a tribute at Steve Jobs' memorial service in 2011. Powell Jobs was an investor in io Products and remains a supporter of LoveFrom. According to Gurman, naming Ive in the complaint risked straining Apple's relationship with a figure who continues to carry considerable influence within the company.

Gurman cites Apple's June Worldwide Developers Conference as an illustration of that influence, noting that Powell Jobs sat in the front row alongside CEO Tim Cook and his successor John Ternus. He characterizes her placement as a visible show of support for Apple's leadership transition.

Gurman further suggests that the optics of naming Ive directly would have worked against Apple. Tan, he notes, is not widely known outside the industry, whereas Ive spent decades as one of Apple's most recognizable figures. Naming him could have generated public sympathy for Ive and invited criticism that Apple's lawsuit was motivated as much by past grievances as by trade-secret concerns. The lawsuit comes as more than 400 former Apple employees are now reported to work at OpenAI, whose first hardware product is expected to be a portable smart speaker aimed at competing with the iPhone in the long term.

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Happy_John Avatar
3 weeks ago
Eh, let’s slide the clickbait aside…

Jony Ive wasn’t named because Jony Ive is not an OpenAI employee.

I would also strongly believe that Jony Ive had zero input into hiring and onboarding procedures at OpenAI, given that Ive is a designer, and not a HR executive.

So, Ive was not named because there would be no rational reason to name him. It doesn’t make him better or worse ( I’d take the position that he’s effectively retired and has been trading off past glories for well over a decade) , it simply makes him irrelevant to the case.

Less of the speculative soap opera, please.
Score: 24 Votes (Like | Disagree)
AdmiralKirk Avatar
3 weeks ago

it's so obvious why scam altman bought jony's company despite zero products ever being released. clearly he thought it would make it more complicated for apple to sue them

elon was right again, as usual.
Comments like this are just silly.

a) Elmo is famous for wild claims and impossible timelines. He's isn't "right as usual" at all. You can't believe anything that comes out of his mouth

b) You don't acquire a $6.5b company in the hope that it acquires goodwill not be be sued. Apple is the worlds largest company. They aren't sentimental.

c) OpenAI acquired Jony Ive's company because he has a history of designing products that literally changed the world. Working with him when you're trying to get into the personal tech hardware market is just a common sense decision for any business leader.
Score: 15 Votes (Like | Disagree)
3 weeks ago
This article could have simply been one line - because there’s “a genuine absence of evidence against Ive”.
Score: 10 Votes (Like | Disagree)
TSE Avatar
3 weeks ago
Only thing Ive is guilty of is as he got thicker, the thinner Apple’s products got.

He was talented and exactly what Apple needed at the time, but he’s way out of touch and stuck in 2001!!!
Score: 10 Votes (Like | Disagree)
3 weeks ago
it's so obvious why scam altman bought jony's company despite zero products ever being released. clearly he thought it would make it more complicated for apple to sue them

elon was right again, as usual.
Score: 10 Votes (Like | Disagree)
GMShadow Avatar
3 weeks ago

Elmo?
It's a common attempt to 'own' Elon, used by people who never intellectually outgrew Sesame Street.

It's very Reddit, and therefore very cringe-inducing.
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)