Sprint Opens iPhone 4 Pre-Orders, iPhone 4S Follows Tomorrow

Arn,

Can we keep the SJ at the top section of MR for this week, and bump all news below?

Seems fitting, and nothing else compares quite honestly.

FWIW.
/topic.

Siri, wake me up at 2:45 AM Eastern time :)

Didnt the CEO of Sprint say "No iPhones."?

I believe that was T-Mobile.

Here's to hoping Sprint can force at least one of the other major carriers to return to unlimited data someday. I may consider Sprint when my contract is up if they maintain these plans.

Sad to see the Steve Jobs story be pushed off the top of the homepage...

Anyways, will I be order to preorder a Sprint iPhone from Apple? That'd be ideal for me.

I think all rumours should be put on hold for a week. I'm sure they will all still be there in a weeks time to report on. Steves story should still get top spot on MR. The website should be dedicated to remembering Steve, his life and all he achieved.

I don't know about everyone else but nothing else matters right now. The gloss and buzz of a new iPhone release has been totally wiped off with this sad news :(

Steve didn't just make the products I love to use but he was also a personal inspiration to me in the philosophical way he lived his life and his success story of bringing Apple back from the brink in the last decade and turning it into the most profitable tech company in the world.

Rest in Peace Steve. Gone but never forgotten :apple:

Siri, wake me up at 2:45 AM Eastern time :)

That was my first thought too.

Siri, remind me to order my 4S at 3 AM!

Arn,

Can we keep the SJ at the top section of MR for this week, and bump all news below?

Seems fitting, and nothing else compares quite honestly.

FWIW.
/topic.

They already put up a box for it at the top of the home page.

I'm confused (which happens easily, so take it light on me, guys).

Didn't i see this (//www.macrumors.com/2011/10/05/sprint-confirms-plans-to-offer-unlimited-data-for-iphone/) just yesterday:

It's a $10/smartphone fee for "premium data".

Sprint is slimey in that they advertise those prices, then add $10 fee for smartphones.

How is this slimy? Verizon charges $30+ for a smartphone compatible dataplan, but offer some feature phone compatible ones for less. Sprint just builds the base fee into your plan, and charges a premium for the people who will use more data. I was pissed when they added it, but I am glad they gave people a choice rather than just raising rates.

I thought the $10 fee was for "4g smartphones"

I love how phone companies claim to have "4g" when its not.

It's NEVER been a 4G fee. They never advertised it as such. They put it on "premium devices" which all happened to be 4G, but they later (about 10 months ago) added it to all new smartphones. I was pissed about it, but even with that fee they're still a few bucks less than a 2gb capped ATT smartphone and even less compared to Verizon (at least in my usage scenarios).

History would seem to imply that it's far more likely the iPhone will force Sprint to give up on offering unlimited data.

I don't think it will happen in this case. Reasoning is that it's Sprint's ONLY compentitive advantage. They're not much cheaper for smartphone users anymore, so it's all they've got. They also have a 2 year plan to do some significant updates to their 3G (and 4G, of course) networks using the old Nextel iDEN spectrum (800mhz, which the iPhone will support CDMA over) so they're going to have more capacity coming online pretty shortly. Lastly, this isn't like when ATT go the iPhone and attracted a ton of new customers becuase they were the only game in town. It's not even like Verizon who converted a lot of people who hate ATT or were previous feature phone customers on their own network. I suspect Sprint will see modest influx of new customers/switchers and a lot of Sprint Android user converts, but the impct on the network won't bee quite as severe as when the last two carriers got the iPhone.

a few hours after Steve's death, people are getting ready to buy phones and discuss data plans... That's how people are: Death, catastrophes and the like make people feel sad for a certain time, but it does not deeply concern them that much so they really think deeply about life, death, the purpose of life.
Life goes on for them until they themselves face death... Then what?

Why should this impact anyone here's daily lives? It's not like we knew Jobs personally. We can note his passing, celebrate his accomplishments and carry on. It's not like we're his family. I hate all this fake grieving people have for celebs.

Oh Sprint... I thought you were different. I was wrong

Voice/Data Usage Limitation: Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to limit throughput speeds, and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. Prohibited network use rules apply. See sprint.com/termsandconditions for specific prohibited uses. 1,024 KB equal 1 MB. 1,024 MB equal 1 GB.

Off-network. Roaming. You can roam onto Verizon's network fro voice and 3G for FREE, you just can't do it all the time.

I'm wondering about this too? Is this a CDMA vs. GSM issue?

Yes. CMDA doesn't support voice and data at the same time. GSM does. But, there's a way to do it on CDMA with the approprate technology in the handset - called SCDMA. There's maybe one Verizon Android phone that does it, and it might not even be out yet.

You can use WiFi and voice at the same time, and it the iPhone was a WiMax device you could use WiMax data and CDMA voice (of course, it's not).

People ranting about how cheap Sprint is are incorrect.

I think you mean "rave" in that context? I've tried every carrier in my area and while Verizon was the best for voice calls Sprint has been the fastest for data here. Verizon limits me to a couple gigs but Sprint has no cap (as of yet) and doesn't throttle. I had a couple iPhones with unlimited data on T-mobile for quite a while but EDGE speeds became less and less workable as average data use went up over time. AT&T was the absolute worst experience I've ever had in virtually every way. Surprisingly slow data, lots of dropped and distorted calls, worthless do-nothing customer service and a "take it or leave it" attitude.

Been analysizing this for days.

Me too. Turns out that both AT&T and Verizon are financial backers of the Tea Party faction. That's a bit of a deal killer for me.