Lion USB Keys Available For Some via AppleCare

Why would anyone pay $69 for a Lion USB when they can burn the Lion Intsaller from Disk Utility in Snow Leopard after downloading but not installing Lion from the MacApp Store?
DVD cost $1

So... Delete the recovery partition and get a free USB key? Sweet.

Actually, that's not a bug and has been pretty standard as far back as I can recall.

So you fubar your computer and got a new replacement. I guess it could be worse. A few years ago, a friend ordered a Dell that didn't work out of the box. After the better part of a day talking to tech support rep that barely spoke English, they blamed her keyboard. They sent her a replacement, but it didn't resolve the problem. To make matters worse, they charged her for the keyboard! More excruciating hours talking to someone in an overseas call center, and they deduced it was something with the motherboard. Their resolution? Send her a refurb computer. Classy. I wonder if she got one of these?

Anyway, good luck.

A support doc like that has never stopped power users trying things and being successful. I was able to do it with Tiger years back. However, the main point of contention here is that I should have been able to reinstall Lion using my own USB install drive. You must have skipped over that part... Please tell me how this is downgrading my OS!

Besides, a computer should not be rendered "fu**ed up beyond all recognition" after simply erasing the drive! Neither should it be completely useless after replacing/upgrading to a new drive. The point i was making was that if you have a system in place to restore an OS, in this case your machine contacts Apple's servers over the network and downloads a boot environment prior to the full OS, that system should work. Clearly, it is not working for a number of people.

Your refer to those dodgy DELL computers and the experience of your friend but how many times have you spoken with an AppleCare rep whose native language is not English. My experience just the other day was with someone whom I found it difficult to understand. That certainly wasn't the first time that has happened to me.

I don't want to sound disrespectful here towards your friend but NO WAY would I accept refurbished for new, or having to pay for a faulty keyboard. I would not have been mugged like that! I would have been quoting the Sale of Goods Act and Distance Selling Regulations at them so I'm not sure why your friend accepted service like that... :confused:

However, we are now straying from the original point of my post.

I doubt they will as the MBA uses a different build of Lion. I tried the Mac App Store version via USB and DVD and neither worked for the MBA so I doubt the USB would too, in fact thats probably why they won't be releasing these USB sticks to MBA/mac mini 2011 customers (presuming the mac mini also uses a different build).

You won't have to rely on the internet every time you reinstall, if you use the recovery HD, unless you wipe the HD. In my experience once you've downloaded the additional components on the MBA, they're there for good (on the main partition, not the recovery HD) but I totally agree with you anyway. It took me five attempts to restore my MBA (on a good connection!) and I still can't reinstall Lion on my iMac due to it timing out on the downloads. Might have to see if I can get the USB stick in the UK for the iMac.

Le sigh. You'd think with all the $$ we are paying the least they could do is allow us to create our own bootable media with custom builds for our hardware. :mad:

A word to the wise: Be aware that the AppleScript erases anything that was previously on the target drive.

This would be cool for those of us who are having recovery problems. Save $69 FTW!

that's what I reckon too.

all this recovery partition crap and having to download a re-install from the AppStore via internet only smacks of being just a wee bit Microsoft-ish :rolleyes:

How is this anything like Microsoft? Microsoft doesn't create restore partitions, the OEMs do. More importantly, those OEMs will provide restore discs if you call them up. They at least give you the option to purchase the disc whereas Apple isn't at all with the new hardware. Also, Microsoft doesn't have any technology in place in Windows 7 where you can recover your OS from an internet download. Maybe some OEM came up with a method to do this, but not Microsoft that I know of. This would actually be pretty neat to be able to do. But it's a lot harder in the Windows world because of the hardware diversity.

Exactly, doesn't work for MBA's.

What if they buy a Mac with Lion pre-installed and can't get the .dmg to burn?

is there no solution for us?

if we buy a new hdd, will we have to plan to buy a additional $69 4gb usb drive? :(

Why would anyone pay $69 for a Lion USB when they can burn the Lion Intsaller from Disk Utility in Snow Leopard after downloading but not installing Lion from the MacApp Store?
DVD cost $1

some can, some can't.

all owners of a Thunderbolt Air can't, since the version of Lion that ships with them is not available from the AppStore.
it is a later version than the Gold Master Lion released there.

thus it becomes a $30 download that cannot be installed on a Thunderbolt Air or any Mac that ships with Lion preinstalled.

it is a rort and Apple are very naughty to do this when its loyal customers have shelled out good $ for the latest product.
I ran into issues and so needed to reinstall the OS which our me over my ISP's allowance for the month and already cost me extra $ :eek:

You could manually burn the image file inside the Lion package downloaded via the App Store, that's how I made my own Lion DVD and installed it from scratch. I didn't need any script.

Does Lion Disk Maker (linked) do anything more than copy the DMG to the USB or optical media?

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