Laurene Powell Jobs and Jony Ive Reveal Why Tech Has 'Gone Sideways' in Rare Interview

Jony Ive and Laurene Powell Jobs have given a rare joint interview to the Financial Times, addressing their collaboration, their concerns about technology's social impact, and OpenAI's mysterious hardware device.

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The interview follows the recent acquisition of Ive's AI startup, IO, by OpenAI in a $6.4 billion deal. Ive was Apple's Chief Design Officer and led the design of products including the iMac, iPod, iPhone, and Apple Watch. Powell Jobs is the widow of Apple CEO Steve Jobs. She was an early investor in IO said she has been closely involved with Ive's work since his departure from Apple in 2019.

Ive explained that Powell Jobs was instrumental in enabling his transition from Apple, saying, "If it wasn't for Laurene, there wouldn't be LoveFrom." Before supporting IO, Powell Jobs backed LoveFrom via her organization Emerson Collective.

While neither Ive nor Powell Jobs disclosed further details about the hardware device in development at OpenAI, they offered insight into the motivations behind the project and their shared belief that current technology has failed to adequately serve human wellbeing. Both expressed concern over the direction technology has taken in the years since the launch of the ‌iPhone‌. Powell Jobs cited evidence of increasing mental health problems among young people as one consequence:

We now know, unambiguously, that there are dark uses for certain types of technology. You can only look at the studies being done on teenage girls and on anxiety in young people, and the rise of mental health needs, to understand that we've gone sideways. Certainly, technology wasn't designed to have that result. But that is the sideways result.

Ive agreed, acknowledging that even innovations developed with the best intentions can produce harmful outcomes:

If you make something new, if you innovate, there will be consequences unforeseen, and some will be wonderful and some will be harmful. While some of the less positive consequences were unintentional, I still feel responsibility. And the manifestation of that is a determination to try and be useful.

Powell Jobs declined to comment on whether the OpenAI device would compete directly with Apple, and emphasized her continued ties to the company:

I'm still very close to the leadership team in Apple. They're really good people and I want them to succeed also.

The interview also touched on broader changes in Silicon Valley culture. Ive moved to the United States in the 1990s to join Apple, but said the tech industry had lost much of its original sense of purpose:

When I first moved here I came because it was characterized by people who genuinely saw that their purpose was in service to humanity, to inspire people and help people create. I don't feel that way about this place right now.

Previous reports from The Wall Street Journal and analyst Ming-Chi Kuo claimed that OpenAI's first hardware device may be a compact, screenless, wearable AI companion. Kuo said it may resemble the iPod Shuffle in form factor, be worn around the neck, and begin mass production in 2027. The WSJ described the device as a user's "third core device" after a smartphone and laptop, potentially offering persistent environmental awareness and personal context.

Ive said that the project has reignited his optimism about technology. The device is apparently being designed with a mentality of "we deserve better. Humanity deserves better." Read the full Financial Times interview for more information.

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Lounge vibes 05 Avatar
24 weeks ago
Idk, every media fluff piece that comes out about this company does not help their case in my opinion.
Also if Johnny truly feels “responsible” for today’s technology caused problems… why would he bet on a company who has been openly and loudly irresponsible with data, and just blurring the line between digital and real?
AI is kinda new and it’s the hot thing but, just like the smart phone, it’s not all good. A lot of the consequences will be arguably worse than the smartphone.
And we are already seeing this, there’s been articles about chatbots encouraging suicide, chatbots telling people with drug addictions the solution to their problems is to take more drugs, and obviously the famous example of the pizza glue.
And no matter how much these AI models improve the one thing they can’t seem to do is stop doing the wrong thing.
Score: 31 Votes (Like | Disagree)
tadasZ Avatar
24 weeks ago
listening to them speak is like pouring water from empty bucket to a bucket with holes...
Score: 29 Votes (Like | Disagree)
BootsWalking Avatar
24 weeks ago
Ive said that the project has reignited his optimism about technology.

A $6.4B payday would inspire me as well.
Score: 29 Votes (Like | Disagree)
ManBun Avatar
24 weeks ago
We don’t want your AI recording device
Score: 21 Votes (Like | Disagree)
joiwomcow Avatar
24 weeks ago
I'm reminded of the hype about the Segway... "a revolutionary new transportation device that will transform our cities"... until people got a look at it.

And then it became the transportation of choice for Paul Blart, Mall Cop.
Score: 19 Votes (Like | Disagree)
mdriftmeyer Avatar
24 weeks ago
The hardware is inert. It is within the application space that dubious and nefarious intentions have always originated. Social Networks and Teen anxiety, heightened bullying, death threats, etc all start with Zuckerberg.

AOL was a highly moderated and subject driven network, not unlike its later competitor Yahoo Games!--equivalent of card games of the past at a neighbor's house, your grandparents home, etc.

MySpace truly introduced the narcissist gene to Social Networks, Instagram made the Camera your vanity portal and Facebook either buried or purchased nearly all the options and cross linked it all.

When you own Instagram, WhatsApp, Facebook and Facebook Messenger to name but four it is clear a multi-trillion dollar empire centered on self glorification is bound to suck all the oxygen and original intentions of IT post iPhone introduction out of the general spectrum of human focus.

Underneath it all is the old cancer, advertising, to drive it all home. The Internet was considered a toy before the browser took hold because advertisers had no way into the business. Surfing the Web made advertisers billionaires.
Score: 18 Votes (Like | Disagree)