Apple Begins Selling Certified Refurbished 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models Internationally

Buy one they're great :)

to be re-refurbish by Louis rossman 4 months later

Lucky for you!
Have you checked the scenarios? Do you have the Radeon 5500M? I have monitored and measured it with Inter Power Gadget and iStats Menus and the apple support forum is full with complaints like this. I think all devices are affected.

I do indeed have the 5500m and I have checked the scenarios. 4K external display, the apps that trigger the GPU and so on. I don't have the issues others are reporting.

Remember the people who come to the forums usually are having issues. I stopped visiting the MacBook Pro forum here once my issues (popping speakers) were resolved by a software update.

I sometimes hear James May talking about doing things "properly", which invokes imagery of when men were real men, and when all people worked with stoic determination in accordance to the existential standard of "how things are supposed to be." But that idea is a little silly.

This question about the macbook is not about what is "proper", but about engineering, and in this case about the specific design choices Apple has made in developing this product.

I am happy to say that the 16" macbook performs exactly as designed. As designed, that is the key concept.

Now, if you wish it to perform differently, I fear there isnt much recourse. I admit this can be frustrating, but it isnt Apple's fault that you wished they made a different product from what they decided to make. Furthermore, it isnt the fault of the computer, since it is merely the manifestation of Apple's idea of the single laptop that can be sold to the maximum number of people

How do you know that performs "exactly" (keyword: exactly") as designed, were you in charge of the design?
A "Pro" machine that gets really hot and get the fans running at 4000 RPM (when the max is 5000) just by connecting an external monitor and the CPU and GPU load is less than 2% is not a good machine and forget about being Pro.

Buy one they're great :)

Dont buy it now! Its buggy.

I am and many other users see apple forum are facing several bugs with my new Macbook Pro 16 i9 AMD Radeon 5500M:


* Blue Pixel Tint on internal and external display with AMD on
* Drains constantly 20w Power with AMD on when connected to external display
* Drains 10w power when AMD Radeon with only internal display on. Cant deactivate discrete graphis, so battery drains fast even when you dont need the power like with sketch or some chrome sites in idle, they turn AMD on.
* This leads to hot MBP 16 and fans noise even while doing normal low cpu stuff like internet and sketch design. 2015 MBP was dead silent.
* Throttles CPU 10% with AMD (just because connected to external monitor, 20w AMD power supply!) while heavy cpu load (video conversion)
* Drains constantly battery under heavy load like video conversion in handbrake while connected to Power (140w peak Power and 100w+ permanent use)


This MacBook AMD Combo is still beta.

Will return my 2nd MBP 16 tomorrow and wait until apple fixes these issues

Only last night before this story broke I spotted these in the UK refurb store and was so close to cancelling my BTO 16 imch MBP order for one of these. With nearly a £500 discount its an amazing deal however I just couldn’t trust a refurb if it was returned for display issues which is so fundamental to a laptop.

Has a full Apple 1 year warranty. Any problems will be fixed.