Valentine One Radar Detector Connects to iPhone Via New Bluetooth LE Adapter

Obviously bad laws should be struck down. Maybe it should be legal to drive safely.

But if speed laws ARE helpful, and they exist, it boggles my mind that it's legal to sell devices for the specific purpose of breaking those laws.

I wish I could say it surprises me that people WANT to drive faster than legal, drive through red lights/stop signs, drive drunk etc.

But having almost been killed by such a person, and my father as well (in a separate incident, neither one involving impairment or alcohol), this no longer surprises me.

The common sentiment held by most people that use radar detectors and aren't ****stick morons is that a radar detector will not save you from speeding tickets on its own.

It is just one more tool to use along with being observant paying attention to the road, other cars and your surroundings being the most important things you can do to avoid tickets. It is not a license to speed and if you rely only on the detector you will end up with plenty of tickets.

Personally I find my detectors most useful when it comes to saving your ass from quota maker speed traps where the limit suddenly dips to the 25-35 range.

Keeping up with the flow of traffic is the safest way to travel, so your comparison of "speeding" to blowing stop signs red lights and driving drunk is pretty asinine.

Obviously bad laws should be struck down. Maybe it should be legal to drive safely.

But if speed laws ARE helpful, and they exist, it boggles my mind that it's legal to sell devices for the specific purpose of breaking those laws.

I wish I could say it surprises me that people WANT to drive faster than legal, drive through red lights/stop signs, drive drunk etc.

But having almost been killed by such a person, and my father as well (in a separate incident, neither one involving impairment or alcohol), this no longer surprises me.

But if speed laws ARE helpful, and they exist, it boggles my mind that it's legal to sell devices for the specific purpose of breaking those laws.

I wish I could say it surprises me that people WANT to drive faster than legal, drive through red lights/stop signs, drive drunk etc.

But having almost been killed by such a person, and my father as well (in a separate incident, neither one involving impairment or alcohol), this no longer surprises me.

Dude... it's a radar detector, not a stop sign defeater or red light changer. Way to go off on a tangent.

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And as far as "pulsed" radar, there is a lot you're missing about techniques and methods. I won't disclose how it all works but what you're referring to already exists if you're smart enough to know how to use it.

You won't disclose because you don't know what you are talking about, or because you want to say "Na, na, na, na, na, na. I know something you don't?"

Obviously bad laws should be struck down. Maybe it should be legal to drive safely.

But if speed laws ARE helpful, and they exist, it boggles my mind that it's legal to sell devices for the specific purpose of breaking those laws.

I wish I could say it surprises me that people WANT to drive faster than legal, drive through red lights/stop signs, drive drunk etc.

But having almost been killed by such a person, and my father as well (in a separate incident, neither one involving impairment or alcohol), this no longer surprises me.

There are legitimate reasons to own one of these. There was an intersection not too far from where I live where the city would change the speed limit on a weekly basis. First, they'd increase it to 50, then lower it to 35, then repeat. They'd plant bike cops behind bushes and just wait. It's worth noting this road was 4 lanes on each side, and had no sidewalk. The 35 mph limit was set purely to set up a speed trap.

Now, to me, that's not right. My radar detector helped me avoid them when they'd plant themselves there, and I've no qualms about doing it.

Obviously bad laws should be struck down. Maybe it should be legal to drive safely.

But if speed laws ARE helpful, and they exist, it boggles my mind that it's legal to sell devices for the specific purpose of breaking those laws.

I wish I could say it surprises me that people WANT to drive faster than legal, drive through red lights/stop signs, drive drunk etc.

But having almost been killed by such a person, and my father as well (in a separate incident, neither one involving impairment or alcohol), this no longer surprises me.

Its a Radar detector. (RAdio Detection and RAnging). Detects radio waves. Does not defeat BAC tests. Does not defeat stop signs and red lights.

Much like your car radio, which detects radio waves,

Much like your cellular phone, which detects radio waves.

Make detecting radio waves illegal?

You make it illegal, shutdown a legitimate industry providing jobs for families. Push it to the black market where nerds will peddle plans to make contraptions like Pringles can-tennas that do the same thing.

Actually no because I do know what I'm talking about.. It's called Instant-On. There's a method that's faster (and makes the V1 fall on it's face) but you'll have to dig up your own information.

To get you started on your ignorance, there's a demonstration.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s1QOjX8TL8

Instant-on does a good job cheating cheap radar detectors. It does less of a job defeating the better ones like the V1 or the Escort Redline, unless you're on a totally empty highway. My V1 detects KA-band in Instant-On when the cop is targeting cars a mile or two ahead of me. In reasonably constant traffic, you can tell exactly what is going on. If you're the only car on the road, it'll work, but otherwise you just pick up the cop trying to pick up everybody else. I've been a V1 owner for four years and this has happened to me maybe half a dozen times.

Lidar, on the other hand (known as "laser") does a great job of defeating most detectors, unless you've installed lidar-reflective paint on common targets on your vehicle, like headlights and license plate (you can Google it).

I agree with the other posts -- something like the V1 is designed to avoid speed traps, or ensure that even if you're driving safely you don't get a ticket. You can be driving safely at 85 or 90; it all depends on the road conditions and the speed of the rest of the traffic. Speeding and driving safely are not entirely connected. For example, the sections of the autobahn with no speed limit have fewer fatalities per driven passenger mile than most sections of highway in the US.

American citizens have a right to know when they are being watched or tracked by any government agency.

When did our rights get mutilated to that? What happened to our right to privacy? What happened to warrants and probable cause being required for such intrusions into our life?

I really wish that nationwide our police would do a 180. Their job shouldn't be to give people tickets or attack them. Their job is to help people. You crashed? They should be on the scene to help and call medical personal - instead they show up and give you a ticket. Mistakes happen, and I'm sure the insurance company can dish out far more pain on you for having crashed than a ticket ever will.

I do this crazy thing of driving five over while also paying attention to my surroundings...in a sporty car. Like you, no tickets. Radar detectors are for lazy suckers. Better not question the RD folks though, they get defensive about their 'investment.'

They just have enthusiasm about it. They drive a totally different style (the enthusiast level guys anyway) but have a lot of experience on how to do so safely. They understand that a RD does not make you invincible. It's a tool and nothing more. There's just a very lot more that it can do for you if you really take the time to understand all the principles of what it actually is doing after starting off with being an observant driver.

But yes it can be quite an investment, but if you really know what you're doing you can, absolutely, go into a trap speeding and drive through ticket free, even if it's a LIDAR trap. And to some people that means they get to drive at what they're comfortable driving at which for them would mean the cost in possible tickets, sometimes even just one ticket plus court costs, that they were able to avoid covers their entire setup.

To rephrase what you said, Cobra radar detectors are for lazy suckers.

Lol you really do have a loud mouth on you. You definitely belong on radardetector.net with all the other lack luster intelligent people on there.

If I can recall, a one jona2125 said the following:

And as far as "pulsed" radar, there is a lot you're missing about techniques and methods. I won't disclose how it all works but what you're referring to already exists if you're smart enough to know how to use it.

Your lackluster display of smartness has already been on display (you even use the word smart). I don't like people making comments about things they know (or don't know, as it were), or for some odd reason wanting to keep them super secret. Maybe only the people in your super-secret club know what you are talking about.

But saying "I won't disclose how it all works but what you're referring to already exists if you're smart enough to know how to use it." is being a total pr1ck at the very least, and verging on @zz hole to be sure.

So why exactly won't you disclose them? Aside from not knowing what you are talking about, the only thing I can assume is that you want to be a total horses @zz.

It's like saying people who don't steal drive me crazy???? :confused:

Speeding isn't criminal, it's a "violation", so let's at least shut down that analogy. You have to be driving very recklessly to get criminal charges.

But, all that aside, if you're in the passing lane and not passing somebody, you're in violation yourself. In most jurisdictions in the US it's illegal to travel in the leftmost lane. Either you pass, or you get out of the way. Everywhere that doesn't have laws against traveling in the leftmost lane still require that you move to the right and yield to faster traffic. Before you come back and say that going at the speed limit in the left lane is okay, you're wrong. The United States Uniform Vehicle Code says that you must be in the right lane if you're traveling slower than the "normal speed" of traffic, not the legal speed of traffic. That is to say, if you're in a 55 MPH zone and most cars are going 65 MPH, you aren't allowed in the leftmost lane. If you're going 65 MPH in a 55 MPH zone and most cars are going 66 MPH, you aren't allowed in the leftmost lane. You are creating an obstruction to the free flow of traffic which has the legal right to overtake you, and you're also creating a dangerously unpredictable situation as other drivers inevitably try to pass on the right.

Before you get all high-and-mighty about always following the speed limit, slow drivers in the leftmost lane cause a lot of accidents. The German Autobahn where there are no speed limits, and drivers strictly adhere to the passing lane being solely for passing, have greatly reduced road fatalities compared to the US highway systems were drivers routinely disobey the laws relating to the passing lane.

Bottom line, before you start casting stones, make sure you're obeying all the traffic laws, including the ones about slower traffic (as compared to "normal speed").

I don't speed in residential neighborhoods, areas with pedestrians, or school zones. I don't tailgate or give anyone else a reason to tailgate me or perform a dangerous passing maneuver. I keep up with other traffic whether they're going slow or fast. I always stay out of the leftmost lane when I'm not passing, and I yield to faster drivers. I stay alert, with my eyes on the road, I double-check my blindspots before lane-changing, and I minimize distractions. I don't drive when I've been drinking or haven't gotten enough sleep. I'll admit, sometimes I speed on nice wide, straight highways. But doing so, recognizing that other drivers are doing the same around me, I'm a safer and more courteous driver than somebody who sits in the passing lane going exactly the speed limit.