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Apple Seeds Build 12D50 of OS X Beta 10.8.3 to Developers

Apple today seeded build 12D50 of OS X 10.8.3 Mountain Lion to developers, the fifth beta release reports 9to5Mac. The first 10.8.3 beta was seeded back in November, and the third and fourth releases were released in December.

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Though the update comes with no known issues or new features, as before Apple has asked developers to focus on AirPlay, AirPort, Game Center, Graphics Drivers, and Safari in their testing. Registered developers can download it via the Apple Developer Page.

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22 months ago
Here's what needs to be fixed:

1. Apple's laziness to launch an OS with so many glitches in their OWN unique hardware.

2. Stop adding BS social features and focus on quality.

3. If Apple wants to add new features, then start copying Windows 8 GREAT file copying and management. That is what desktop OSes do, anyway. This is not an iPad.
Rating: 14 Votes
22 months ago

I agree with the slow shutdown times. I had a 2007 iMac with Mountain Lion. I put Snow Leopard back on it to sell it.

Mountain Lion: 30-35 seconds to shutdown
Snow Leopard: 5 seconds to shutdown

Even with my newer 2011 iMac, shutdown times are around 30 seconds. It doesn't bother me. I just find it strange. :D


Well see now. Macs aren't used to being shut down or rebooted. That's a Windows thing.

:D
Rating: 11 Votes
22 months ago

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Though the update comes with no known issues or new features, as before Apple has asked developers to focus on AirPlay, AirPort, Game Center, Graphics Drivers, and Safari in their testing. Registered developers can download it via the Apple Developer Page (https://developer.apple.com/).

GRAPHICS DRIVERS!!!!!!!!!!


I don't get why you re wrote this cause its already there in the article above
Rating: 10 Votes
22 months ago

That's what snow leopard was for. Even still lion and mountain lion didn't really get any compelling features. Just social crap and dumbing down of a lot of stuff to make it more like ios (Quicktime being a prime example - they remove most of its preferences for no reason at all)


Quicktime 7 has a 32-bit API that is ancient. 64-bit is the future but taking Quicktime 7 to that future isn't a straightforward process (http://arstechnica.com/apple/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6/6/) and will take time. And if you owned Quicktime 7 Pro, it still runs just fine on Mountain Lion. Its not like Apple yanked it or 'dumbed it down' for fun-sies. Also social/cloud integration isn't crap, its where we are in contemporary technology.
Rating: 9 Votes
22 months ago

Here's what needs to be fixed:

1. Apple's laziness to launch an OS with so many glitches in their OWN unique hardware.

2. Stop adding BS social features and focus on quality.

3. If Apple wants to add new features, then start copying Windows 8 GREAT file copying and management. That is what desktop OSes do, anyway. This is not an iPad.


You can thank Craig Federighi for this as he took over as Senior Vice President of Software Engineering after Bertrand Serlet left in 2011. Serlet moved to Apple with Jobs from NeXT and was Senior VP in S.E., and was mainly responsible for Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard. Criag Federighi is a hack, responsible for allowing Forstall to incorporate iOS **** into OS X while dropping the ball on improved graphics drivers and OpenGL Core support, a revised HFS+ Finder system, lack of full multiple display support, "Mission Control", horrible memory management, and pushing for an annual release cycle. The odds are, it won't change.

EDIT Read post #85, as some have called my information into question I have added links and facts to support that Craig Federighi was head of OS X development two years prior to Serlet's March 2011 announcement for departure. Craig Federighi has been head of OS X development since his return to Apple in 2009.

Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 08:35 am
Serlet joined Apple in 1997 and has been involved in the definition, development and creation of Mac OS X. Before his time at Apple, Serlet spent four years at Xerox PARC, then joined NeXT with Jobs in 1989. He holds a doctorate in Computer Science from the University of Orsay, France.

"I've worked with Steve for 22 years and have had an incredible time developing products at both NeXT and Apple, but at this point, I want to focus less on products and more on science," Serlet said.

He will be replaced by Craig Federighi, Apple's vice president of Mac Software Engineering. In his new role, Federighi will assume Serlet's responsibilities and will report directly to Jobs.

Federighi is responsible for the development of Mac OS X, and has been managing the Mac OS software engineering group for the past two years. It was Federighi who gave a live demonstration of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion at a media event last October.

"Craig has done a great job managing the Mac OS team for the past two years," Serlet said. "Lion is a great release and the transition should be seamless."

Federighi worked at NeXT, followed by Apple, and spent a decade at Ariba where he held several roles including vice president of Internet Services and chief technology officer. He returned to Apple in 2009 to lead Mac OS X engineering. Federighi holds a Master of Science degree in Computer Science and a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from the University of California, Berkeley.

Rating: 8 Votes
22 months ago
Here's what needs to be fixed:
Issues related with Graphic drivers: Choppy Animations, Memory Leaks when apps use GPU/hardware acceleration, Kernal Panics.

Other problems: CRAZY Shutdown times, poor battery life.

Here's what should be added: GPU accelerated scrolling in Mail, Preview (similar to Safari), option to do a three dinger swipe in all apps when it's enabled in Trackpad settings.


Edit: I have a MBP 13" mid 2010. But I've also seen most of these problems on RetinaMBPs
Rating: 8 Votes
22 months ago

Firstly, its against forum rules to accuse people of trolling (not to mention highly pathetic). Secondly I'm not trolling. I'm stating fact.

Its a case of it only being a feature for the select few people that use it. Nothing 'big' has come to OS X in a long time now short of welcomed performance improvements.

Lets actually look at it objectively:

Game center - It has next to no real use if you dont do multiplayer gaming heavily on your mac. Gaming on the mac is already fairly niche (although granted it is growing). Even then, who the hell needs it? Seriously it's such a minuscule usage market. The biggest annoyance is that some tit decided to disable the ability to delete it.

Mail - It's a good app. But its only a good app if you need it. With the likes of very well made webmail clients, it's not something I'd personally ever want to use. Gmail and Outlook webmail clients do a pretty amazing job, and are updated a hell of a lot more often than Mail.app is.

AirDrop - A useful little feature, doesnt work for me however. Never has done, and never really tried to fix it. Certainly not worthy of being listed as a major OS feature.

iCloud - I had high hopes for it. But a measly 5GB free limit, and piss poor performance outside the US made it very much an annoyance more than a feature. Dropbox and Google Drive do a way better job of file syncing. The only plus of iCloud is storing notes in it, and using Photo Stream...assuming you dont hit your limit within the first 15 minutes of using the darn thing! At the end of the day, it's just MobileMe rebranded after the monumental mess they made of it.

Safari - Cant really include that. It's not a core part of the OS. It's a downloadable app.

Drill into the features of mountain lion. Look at Apple's page on it. The feature list really is quite pathetic.

Notification Center - it does an 'ok' job but Growl is still way more convenient than having to keep opening up some silly hidden sidebar that's been bodged into the top corner of the screen. Most apps still use growl however, and will do for the foreseeable future. Especially given that Apple are locking down the OS X features to only work with MAS apps.

Reminders - Should be an optional app in the MAS, not built into the system.
Notes - The same as reminders.

iMessage - Nice. But never works for me on any of my machines. Spends ages spinning a wheel only to tell me it couldnt connect to the Apple servers. Littlesnitch doesnt even show it trying.
Facetime - Same situation as iMessage
(A note about both iMessage and Facetime - dont forget that these replaced iChat. So only half a feature there really)

Power Nap - Not a notable feature
Dictation - Only a feature if you do a lot of writing
Sharing - Only a feature if you want to annoy people on Facebook and Twitter by posting junk all the time.
Facebook/Twitter Integration - I'd rather not have Facebook baked into the OS - there's no need for that - EVER.

Airplay - possibly the best feature of Mountain Lion. This one actually has its uses!

GateKeeper - No. Just No. If you think this is a good idea, you either dont understand anything about tech, or are very naive.

Then they list "Over 200 new features". Most of which are individual tiny things like reordering table headers using voice over - thats not worthy of being called a feature. I'm not exaggerating here either - thats actually listed as one of the 200 features: http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/features.html

Am I being negative? You bet your ass I am. However out of everything I've listed as a "Feature" of Mountain Lion. I can honestly say that I've only ever found Airplay to be helpful. Even then I've only used it once in a blue moon.

Its not as if I'm a light user either. I'm on my mac from 8:30AM to about 6:00PM Mon-Fri working.


Your opinion is far from objective. Most of the things you list are enjoyed by me, and likely many others. You may subjectively dislike those features, but don't pass of your opinion as fact.
Rating: 7 Votes
22 months ago

They wrote "GRAPHIC DRIVEEEEERRRRRS" as well...


SO.....? :mad:

There's a reason why people are screaming GRAPHICS DRIVEEEEERRRRRS...!!!!

Graphics have been sucky ever since LION....! Read again LION....! Read again LION....!

Even on MOUNTAIN LION (Read again MOUNTAIN LION.....!), it still leak memory like there's no tomorrow....

What makes you (or any other people who says it's stated there GRAPHICS DRIVEEEEERRRRRS) think they have solved the issue with a minor (2 digit build) update...? :mad::mad:
Rating: 6 Votes
22 months ago

You can thank Criag Federighi for this as he took over as Senior Vice President of Software Engineering after Bertrand Serlet left in 2011. Serlet moved to Apple with Jobs from NeXT and was Senior VP in S.E., and was mainly responsible for Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard. Criag Federighi is a hack, responsible for allowing Forstall to incorporate iOS **** into OS X while dropping the ball on improved graphics drivers and OpenGL Core support, a revised HFS+ Finder system, lack of full multiple display support, "Mission Control", horrible memory management, and pushing for an annual release cycle. The odds are, it won't change.


I couldn't agree with you more. Criag Federighi seriously needs to get his act together and take a leadership role that once represented such great and flawless Mac software. My blood has been boiling since the release of Lion and now Mountain Lion. There is so much focus on completely useless features and iOSification. I mean Apple has lost its touch from truly making the best desktop operating system. The OS X Kernel HASN'T BEEN UPDATED MUCH SINCE SNOW LEOPARD! Yes, SL, Lion, and ML all pretty much have the same Kernel, which explains the crazy memory usage and random Kernel Panics.

I don't know if Apple is being lazy or just greedy because Macs now are just a small part of their overall business.
Rating: 6 Votes
22 months ago

apple.com/feedback


I found it to be more promising when filing a bug report at the link below:

https://bugreport.apple.com/cgi-bin/....woa/wa/signIn

Once you do this you can be quite sure that the issue is retrieved and followed up. Issues like the slow shutdown times and Airport problems for example seemed to be of interest as Apple asked for sysdiagnoses and protocols.
Rating: 6 Votes

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