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Apple to Wipe iTunes Match iCloud Data on Sept 26th, GM to Follow?


Apple has sent an email to developers notifying them that their iCloud libraries housing iTunes Match data will be wiped on Monday, September 26th at 9AM PDT. The reason for the wipe is to "improve the overall quality and reliability" of the service. The news comes after Apple wiped all the iCloud backup data on Thursday, September 22nd.

We believe these are preparations for Apple to launch the final Golden Master (GM) version of iOS 5. Apple had been planning to declare iOS 5 as GM on Friday, September 23rd, though we haven't heard confirmation yet if that had actually taken place. Also on schedule was to start installing iOS 5 GM onto new devices in their factories on Monday, September 26th. Assuming all this has remained on schedule, we expect the final GM version of iOS 5 to be release to developers as early as next week.

iCloud and iTunes Match services have been running in developer beta for the last couple of months. The public release is scheduled for "Fall", and it seems likely Apple will announce the ship date at their rumored October 4th media event.

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42 months ago

This is a private beta as very distinct from a public beta.

The deletion is to avoid problems in the future, as some of the data stores might have changed during the beta development.


This. A million times over this.

The developer program is just that...a program for developers. I almost wish there was a requirement to prove you are actively developing for the platform to keep your membership.
Rating: 14 Votes
42 months ago
These next several weeks are going to seem long...
Rating: 7 Votes
42 months ago

I have this same feeling. Apple understands how to make so many amazing products but they really fall down when it comes to web services for some reason.


This is a private beta as very distinct from a public beta.

The deletion is to avoid problems in the future, as some of the data stores might have changed during the beta development.
Rating: 7 Votes
42 months ago

This. A million times over this.

The developer program is just that...a program for developers. I almost wish there was a requirement to prove you are actively developing for the platform to keep your membership.


The issue is that the vast majority are using the program as part of a "buy your UDID a copy of iOS5". None of those people actively report bugs, they just complain and submit negative app reviews.
Rating: 6 Votes
42 months ago

I haven't seen Apple get Internet services right except for the iTunes Store (in its original form).

It seems problematic that Apple's idea of increasing the reliability and quality of a service is to delete all of users' server-side data. Like most of of us here, I'm not an expert on Internet services, not even a little bit. But it seems like betas usually grow into a mature product. Gmail didn't force users to delete all their e-mail as it grew. Other companies fail and fix. Apple tends to have a slash and burn mentality.

You know Tripod is still hosting some sites I created back in the late 90s? Apple has destroyed every Internet service offering it's offered when it came out with a new idea. eWorld, iTools, .Mac, MobileMe. I've paid for those except for iTools, and while I don't remember the details of what's about to happen with the iCloud transition (Apple seems to obfuscate that information), I am not trusting that my MobileMe gallery is going to be around or that my iDisk data won't disappear. I've lost enough e-mail through MobileMe to know it's possible at any time. And these are paid services. I never paid Tripod a dime, and it's still hosting the first web-sites I ever made.

As a layman, it seems to me it's a bad sign if you need a fresh start to mature a beta. I would love for Apple to prove me wrong.


Quite the rant, but this is very different. This is a brand new feature that they were very clear would be deleted near the end of the beta. Same thing with device backups on iCloud. it wasn't a surprise to anyone as they were telling devs from day one that stuff would be deleted as time went on.

I'm with you, I have lost stuff with MobileMe, too. Just be sure to judge appropriately.
Rating: 5 Votes
42 months ago
Beta = doesn't work yet, in testing.

The most complained about problem in these forums is that matches were incomplete. Doesn't it make sense that the next step in development would be to tweak the matching algorithm, wipe all the songs, and retest the matching?

No one should be surprised or upset with that.
Rating: 3 Votes
42 months ago

This is a private beta as very distinct from a public beta.

The deletion is to avoid problems in the future, as some of the data stores might have changed during the beta development.


Oh no, I didn't mean in reference to this particular event. This is for developers and judging anything based off of this would be silly.
Rating: 3 Votes
42 months ago

These next several weeks are going to seem long...


Right on.

Between iOS 5 and the iP5/4s...Im getting pretty stoked.
Rating: 3 Votes
42 months ago

I missed the part where I said "I" was the person who discovered all these issues, or gave myself credit for it in anyway. I'm pretty sure all I did was list some serious issues with the service and said that it wasn't ready. Last I checked, these are not the Dev forums nor are those problems documented here.

If you spent half as much energy actually reading my post, as you did making that stupid response you might have realized that.

Cheers


If you had a clue, at all, you wouldn't bother posting the same useless drivel that was included in the release notes weeks ago. No one cares about your opinion of the state of the beta that Apple issued. You sound EXACTLY like someone who scammed his way into the beta program and has no previous experience with testing software.
Rating: 2 Votes
42 months ago

What was the announced timeframe for the Match release? "Fall"? That's a big window but there's not a lot of time left for them to meet that, which is why many are concerned that they haven't seen enough progress fast enough. Maybe Apple will pull it together fast, but it's also possible they'll either push it back or they'll release something before it's ready.



You mean intentionally doing that as part of the beta? Or that it will be the case for the final product?

This is a paid service - if they aren't going to match some things that iTunes store sells they need to tell customers that. And if that's just a temporary beta condition, they will need to do a test trying to do full matches, or they're going to have users getting some pretty terrible results on release day.


First release of Match beta was August 31, doesn't that seem like it doesn't allow much time for testing for something announced to be released "fall"?


Fall does continue into November.

There's also a reason the testers were given 3 months free.
Either
A. Apple has tricks up its sleeves and Match comes out the same time IOS 5 does or
B. Apple is way behind and will put out a crappy , non-working PAID product or
C. Apple will release it at the end of October/early November.

I'm gonna go with C.
Rating: 2 Votes

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