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YouTube for Apple TV uses H.264, not Flash [Updated]

Earlier this week, Apple announced that YouTube.com videos would become available on the Apple TV after a software update that will be made available in June.

iLounge spoke with Apple's Vice President of Worldwide Mac Hardware Marketing, David Moody, who provided more details about this upgrade.

According to Moody, not all of the Youtube catalog will be available on day one. Instead, "thousands of videos designed for Apple TV" will be available at launch, but that the remainder will become available by the fall. The reason for the delay is that Youtube will be encoding all of their videos into a "H.264 streaming-efficient compression format" specifically for the Apple TV. All of Youtube's videos are currently encoded in Flash Video (FLV) format.

While no official reason is given for the mass transcoding of Youtube's entire catalog, Macformat.co.uk believes it has to do with the iPhone.

As far as I know even now, Flash content per se might not play on the iPhone from day one. But Apple clearly doesn't indeed, shouldn't care, as YouTube is for many people the most critical site that uses Flash.


Indeed, both the iPod and iPhone can play H.264 encoded video, and so it seems the entire Youtube catalog may also become available to those devices later this year.

Updated: In an early iPhone FAQ, Jobs described this exact scenario:

Markoff: Flash?
Jobs: Well, you might see that.
Markoff: What about YouTube
Jobs: Yeah, YouTubeof course. But you dont need to have Flash to show YouTube. All you need to do is deal with YouTube. And plus, we could get em to up their video resolution at the same time, by using h.264 instead of the old codec.

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61 months ago
Awesome! This news is convincing me more and more to finally pick up that :apple:tv I've been wanting.
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61 months ago
Is YouTube replacing their entire catalog with H.264, or will there be two complete catalogs, one H.264 and the other FLV?
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61 months ago
Seems like an awful lot of work. Isn't it easier just to make flash playback in QuickTime...like by using Perian?
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61 months ago
This must have to do with the iPhone/iPod.

Why would Youtube go through the trouble of reencoding all their videos (and they have a LOT), if not for Apple to distribute their videos on iPods/iPhones.

The Apple TV could easily play Flash video content if they wanted it to. Certainly reencoding all of youtube's videos is NOT the quickest solution.

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61 months ago

Is YouTube replacing their entire catalog with H.264, or will there be two complete catalogs, one H.264 and the other FLV?


my impression is that there will be two complete catalogs. they need to keep flash for easy browsing access.

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61 months ago
Is everyone forgetting that Quicktime can play basic flash files (swf) along with FLV files? If they are just converting the FLV files into h.264 then there would virtually no change in quality, unless they had a better copy than what is public.
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61 months ago

This must have to do with the iPhone/iPod.

Why would Youtube go through the trouble of reencoding all their videos (and they have a LOT), if not for Apple to distribute their videos on iPods/iPhones.

The Apple TV could easily play Flash video content if they wanted it to. Certainly reencoding all of youtube's videos is NOT the quickest solution.

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I was thinking the same thing.

...Unless, of course, this new feature of YouTube is also meant for other companies and products besides Apple.

...Or maybe YouTube realizes that this is where the 'net is headed, so they might as well get a early start on the encoding process.
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61 months ago
The new iPod will have WIFI :) YEAH!!!
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61 months ago

my impression is that there will be two complete catalogs. they need to keep flash for easy browsing access.

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Can a flash player stream a h.264 video?
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61 months ago
Little screens show Flash perfectly well. (I imagine both the iPod and the iPhone could easily be adapted.) But it's the HD screens. Can you imagine how junky FLV looks on a 50" screen? Gotta have H.264 not to die of pixelitis.
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