2017 Honda Pilot Features CarPlay

* People buy a manual because they're cheaper and thus can't afford extra features


* People buy a manual because they are 'drivers cars' and most people who are drivers in the traditional more romantic way don't care for bells & whistles like heated seats, leather seats or cool tech.

This. So much this. Manual used to be about getting better gas milage by rowing your own. Today's automatic transmissions are much much better than we are at efficiency. Now it seems manual owners fall into those two categories or at least a mix of the two. I fall under bullet point two. I am one of the "Save the Manuals" people. I've never owned an automatic (technically I do, but it's my wife's car). For as long as possible, I never will. Don't get me wrong, I love heated and cooled seats and all that jazz but it's the engagement with the car that means the most. Car companies don't care about that as much anymore. Neither bad nor good, it just is. Has been for a while.

I'm looking at getting a new car , and the Honda Civic hatchback is in the running...but if you want the 6-speed manual you can't get carplay -_- (Unless you don't live in the US.)

I'll probably end up with a Mazda3 which also doesn't have carplay, but they are potentially upgrading their software to support it (And 2014+ all have the same infotainment unit.)

So basically, car manufacturers still suck.

Has anyone even released a car with wireless Car Play? I remember it being announced with iOS 9.

Car companies really don't care anymore. When CP and AA were first introduced car companies viewed them as added incentives to 1. attract more potential buyers and 2. a way to potentially up sell to higher trim levels. Couple that with the reputed flakiness of the products and you get industry apathy. CP and AA are nothing more than boxes to be ticked to say yeah we have that too. CP and AA were never going to be anything more than a stop gap solution until car companies got their crap together regarding intuitive UI. With Apple and Google laying a blueprint for them to follow, they won't need either one. They don't need either one right now since cars are going to sell regardless. This is all my opinion of course.

I hate car play. It actually is one feature that makes me want to switch to android because apple maps still sucks so bad after years of trying
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Car companies really don't care anymore. When CP and AA were first introduced car companies viewed them as added incentives to 1. attract more potential buyers and 2. a way to potentially up sell to higher trim levels. Couple that with the reputed flakiness of the products and you get industry apathy. CP and AA are nothing more than boxes to be ticked to say yeah we have that too. CP and AA were never going to be anything more than a stop gap solution until car companies got their crap together regarding intuitive UI. With Apple and Google laying a blueprint for them to follow, they won't need either one. They don't need either one right now since cars are going to sell regardless. This is all my opinion of course.

The biggest advantage of them is your cat being able to use your gps and data for traffic and navigation. That feature actually prevents the car makers from selling overpriced nav units

I just bought my first automatic. a Golf R w/ Dual-Clutch. Reasons:


* .4 seconds faster 0-60 time (4.1 versus 4.5 for manual)
* Paddle shifters, sport or comfort transmission modes meaning it adapts to the style of driving I want
* nearly a full second faster in my quarter mile time over manual Golf R vehicles (I do 11.99 and my manual brothers are doing 12.7-12.9 w/ same mods.
* Higher Torque limitations. My car is pulling 100 lb/ft of torque over stock and my manual brothers w/ State 1 mods are getting slip already whereas I'm at stage II +150WHP +100 torque and w/ the transmission software modified to clamp down harder, I have zero slip issues.

I miss my manual transmission every day but the pros outweighed the cons this time.

However, let's be fair... the "automatic" VW uses isn't a regular torque-converter automatic. It's a double-clutch gearbox - or doppelkupplungsgetriebe as the Germans affectionately call it. :p

I will take DSG over a regular plain-jane automatic any day. Best of both worlds.

DSG vs Manual? That might be a bit harder. I love the manual gearbox in my BMW M3, but computers can shift faster than humans ever will.


On-topic discussion: Just waiting for Honda to get the Civic Si and Type-R over here. Looked at a hatchback at my local dealer and loved it.

I'd love to have the (regular) hatchback with the 1.5L Turbo motor, a manual, CarPlay, and LED headlights. Too bad Honda won't give you CarPlay or LED lighting unless you get the dreaded CVT. :(

I'm looking at getting a new car , and the Honda Civic hatchback is in the running...but if you want the 6-speed manual you can't get carplay -_- (Unless you don't live in the US.)

Really? That might be the most bizarre logic I've ever heard for car optioning.

Very common in the US. AutoMakers see one of two things and it's never clear which one they think:


* People buy a manual because they're cheaper and thus can't afford extra features
* People buy a manual because they are 'drivers cars' and most people who are drivers in the traditional more romantic way don't care for bells & whistles like heated seats, leather seats or cool tech.


Volkswagen offers one Sportwagen in USA that's manual and it's their S model (not SE or SEL) and it has cloth seats, basic features and no sunroof. If you want nicer seats, features, comforts, you have to choose automatic.