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Philips Expands Hue Lineup With BR30 Recessed Lights

Philips has expanded its Hue line of app-controlled lighting with a new bulb, the BR30, which is designed to fit into recessed sockets typically installed in living rooms and kitchens with a standard E26 screw fitting.

BR30 bulbs are designed to deliver 600 lumens of light, similar to the standard Hue bulbs, but the BR30 is a downlight, delivering light in a downward beam rather than providing omnidirectional light. BR30 bulbs provide a full range of color and a full range of white light.

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Like the original Hue bulbs, and the Friends of Hue LightStrips and Bloom, the BR30 can be controlled through an iPhone or iPad, which pairs with the Hue bridge. In addition to the Philips app, there are several other third party apps also designed to work with Hue bulbs.

Ars Technica went hands-on with the new BR30 Hue lights, finding them to perform as well as the standard Hue bulbs.
The color and intensity of the light they produce is indistinguishable to my eyes from that of the standard A19 Hue bulbs. Tone reproduction is bright and rich, with eye-watering reds, blues, and purples, though the lights have the same problem with deep green as do the standard Hue bulbs (owing to their non-standard LED colors—the bulbs contain lime-green LEDs instead of a darker “normal” green). Transitions between colors are smooth, without any jumping or flashing to odd non-intermediate shades.
The new BR30 bulbs, which can be purchased today from Apple retail stores, are available in a set of three for $199 (bridge included) or consumers can purchase a single bulb for $59.

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Posted: 10 months ago

I do. I have a bunch of these installed already. They are great for mood lighting as you can load a variety of color and intensity profiles.


no light can fix my mood after i payed 199$ for 3 bulbs.
Rating: 21 Votes
Posted: 10 months ago
I absolutely love these but they are still way to pricey! When the bulbs get down to less than $20 each, maybe. But at this point I feel this technology is just not affordable for most.
Rating: 7 Votes
Posted: 10 months ago

Or.... you can buy a regular light bulb and save 100 dollars. Just saying...


Yeah, and replace it a few times a year and spend more on your energy bill. LEDs in general are a bit more expensive, and while Hue takes it to the extreme, LEDs are still a pretty good deal. (Usually, you'd at least break even in the long run compared to incandescents, and you'd give CFLs a run for their money if not the same. I'm not sure that would quite happen with Hue, but you're obviously paying for more than that here.) I'm only surprised that their warranty isn't longer since LED bulbs are estimated to last a decade or two under normal use.

Plus, a regular light bulb obviously can't do all the things Hue can. I bought the starter pack (used, so a bit cheaper) and it's really nice to be able to dim lights in sockets that don't have built-in dimmers and change the color temperature according to my task (warm white for general relaxing, cool white if I'm working, for example--the non-white colors are mostly just for fun, IMHO, and I don't use them a lot). If you're on vacation, you can also turn them on or off remotely either manually or on a schedule to, e.g., make your house look occupied. You can integrate them with IFTTT and, e.g., a smart lock to turn your lights on when you open your door. Plus there's an open API that you can use to make them do about anything you want. I have mine controlled by two Griffin PowerMates.

It'd be nice to see the price come down $10 or $20 or more, but these aren't horrible. The downlight is a nice addition and the same price as the regular bulbs, and they actually produce the same number of lumens at a lower wattage, which is nice. (Honestly, the regular Hue bulbs aren't entirely omnidirectional, but at least these will fit nicely in recessed sockets.)

That being said--I think I'll just stick with my $10 wall-dimmable LEDs I got a few years ago for now in my recessed fixtures. :) Maybe if I need to replace them some time...
Rating: 6 Votes
Posted: 10 months ago
It's a great product when it works... and while I had problems before, it seems to be working more consistently now. I'm glad I got the Hue instead of waiting for the LiFX system, even though it's been very interesting to see them progress and figuring things out.
Rating: 4 Votes
Posted: 10 months ago
Or.... you can buy a regular light bulb and save 100 dollars. Just saying...
Rating: 4 Votes
Posted: 10 months ago

We’ve got a couple of recessed lights out in the kitchen and these are _so_ tempting. I really dig on creative lighting (we’ve done a few things in the kitchen already).

I guess this does come with the “hub”, and they are LED (so assuming a long life), so not the worst deal.


Have you done any of these BR30 yet? Or the standard “bulb” style? Decent range on the hub?


Good range and adding a light in between extends the range if needed. Mine goes from one floor to the basement no problem.

I have 3 of the standard bulbs from the kit. My kids don't even know why the light changes colors sometime as I haven't told anyone. My 12 year old thinks it is pretty freaky and my 5 year old loves it, they just don't know I'm behind the colors changing. Fun times.
Rating: 4 Votes
Posted: 10 months ago

Who the heck buys these


I do. I have a bunch of these installed already. They are great for mood lighting as you can load a variety of color and intensity profiles.
Rating: 4 Votes
Posted: 10 months ago
I have 12 of these hue lights (original design) and look forward to expanding with the new offering. We have lights for morning to drive energy and alertness, lights to calm into the evening, light for "theatre time" when we're watching movies on the big screen, and lights for accent when there's no other reason to customize.

;)
Rating: 4 Votes
Posted: 10 months ago

no light can fix my mood after i payed 199$ for 3 bulbs.


Won't know until you try.

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$1800 to put wifi-bulbs all over my house, not including the bathrooms, where mood lighting can be very important. Excellent.


Compare that to the cost of automating all of those lights some other way and see how it goes.

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Thanks for the additional info - I didn’t realize each light became a repeater of sorts, very clever. I like really mild lighting, and the colors+dimming seem perfect to me. I’m about to add some new lighting to my office, and may very likely use some kind of hue setup.

:cool:


It's not a repeater, it's ZigBee - a low power wireless mesh is the main feature of that standard.

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For those who are curious, my experience with the regular Hue bulbs has been mixed. I purchased them with a $50 discount but they haven't really delivered what I imagined.

I wanted to wake up to a timed sunrise and all that jazz but the fading timer doesn't even work. It just turns on all of a sudden. The light isn't as rich as I wanted either. Even as a regular colored light, it's too dim. Also, your light switches have to be on at all times for the software/remote to work. The Hue app is a joke as well.

Maybe if I owned a restaurant or other business and wanted some quick colors, it would be worth it. But in my home, where I switch them on and off all the time, there's just too much friction for too little results.


I only use these in my entertainment and music room, where the Logitech harmony remote can control the lighting with the settings of my entertainment system. Also makes for great mood lighting for creativity or just jamming.
Rating: 3 Votes
Posted: 10 months ago
I'm interested in Home Automation, so this appeals to me.

BR30 at $59, considering the alternatives...

Excellent quality LEDs down-light, 36 degree spread, 2700k $40 a piece
Light switches/modules $90-$300

Adding a Philips $59 LED to my Hue environment, no-brainer
Rating: 3 Votes

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