Adobe Introduces Creative Suite 6 and Creative Cloud

I think the majority of people complaining about the cost are people like me - hobbyists who would love to be at least semi-professional but don't make enough off what they create to justify the four-digit price point. If you're a pro it's a no-brainer, but if you're an aspiring one then forget it.

Adobe is a evil greedy company.

$75/month. Obviously business targeting. I hope that doesn't mean per machine!

Adobe is a evil greedy company.

It's actually $600/year if you want to go that route, which is a good deal considering that Photoshop CS6 by itself is $700. And with this you get access to every single app they make, and they're always up to date.

Not sure how that's "greedy". If you're a professional, it's a no-brainer.

Adobe has become way overpriced for us mere mortals. For the low, low price of $2600 you too can become a beta tester for bug laden crap that never gets fixed before it becomes legacy-ware.

The only thing they have that is worth the money is Lightroom. It's so good I'm convinced Adobe didn't write it nor do they have anything to do with it. (If they did it wouldn't work as well as it does).

People complaining are those not making money from using their software. There are plenty of alternatives for photo and video creation outside of Adobe's ecosystem.

The fact that I can upgrade my CS5 Master Collection for only $549 is incredible. If you are a recurring customer the upgrade pricing is pretty reasonable.

As a professional with a budget that is handed down to me quarterly, a $100 savings with massive restriction is no deal for software that you never own. How many people love leasing a car?

It's actually $600/year if you want to go that route, which is a good deal considering that Photoshop CS6 by itself is $700. And with this you get access to every single app they make, and they're always up to date.

Not sure how that's "greedy". If you're a professional, it's a no-brainer.

Apple fans complaining about supposed overpricing? What has the world come to? :D

$75/month. Obviously business targeting. I hope that doesn't mean per machine!

And why wouldn't it mean 75$ per month per machine? It's targeting businesses!

IMHO, the more you trust things to "the cloud" the more you lose control over your system.

Adobe's greatest competition is themselves. It's entrenched and the market is saturated by their own product. That's why the product is bloated. They're not trying to create the best tools; they're trying to repeat sell the same thing, each year or so, to the same people. Why do you think the pricing is getting worse for those who prefer to skip versions & buy separate applications? Frankly, I've lost interest. I love photoshop, but only just. It's become bloated, slow, filled with junk I don't want and I'm aware of how much a waste of resources that junk is because I've watched it get added over the years. The only thing that compells me to ever upgrade any more is that my OS forces me to, or I can get some kind of excellent deal (which I won't get any more, since I'm now unemployed & not a student). They've repeatedly added undesirable crap to their product line up and I'd rather keep a machine stuck at an older OS generation as long as possible than waste money & system resources on the latest attempt to resell the same stale crap.

The alternatives aren't nearly comparable, which makes the situation even worse. And Adobe knows it. Adobe is market king and that's a bad thing for their product & customers. They've been taking on "new features" that attempt to make users feel the few competitors aren't worth going to, outside Adobe (such as natural media emulation, which could happily be a separate product category, such as Painter, if not for the marketing need to bloat the existing photoshop), which just makes those competitors even less likely to maintain/gain traction, & less able to spend on the engineering needed to compete with Adobe's products' heavy lifting (ie high-dpi, cmyk, complex layering/masking, massive image support, plug-in support, etc).

The industry is stagnant and Adobe takes advantage of users' limited options by repeat selling the same crap & increasing pricing while offering barely anything of significance other than "the right to keep using the tools." Sound familiar? There are a few other notable companies doing the same.

Subscription licensing is the only way dominant companies can continue *increasing* profits every year & the only companies that can force the market to accept it.

That's why the software is pirated so much. Users (individual & corporate) know they're being abused & no one wants to spend much money on intangible things when tangible things are far more compelling. The best solution is to stop abusing the users with high cost & anti-piracy/user BS. But developers like Adobe won't reverse their direction. It's beyond their corporate culture's ability to comprehend.

Antisocial entities don't get better. There's no immediate incentive to, & instant gratification is all that matters. I don't even know why I'm bothering to say any of this.

You know, the more I think about this "hobbyist" line of argument, the more it irks me. Since when have hobbies been cheap? What does it cost to put your kid in dance classes every month? What does it cost to suit your kid up for football? How much does the average golfer spend on a monthly basis? Do you not pay green fees if you aren't a professional?

$50 a month for a hobby? Pretty cheap by most standards, especially when you consider the number of options that are open to you: video editing, photo-retouching, illustration, animation, web design, etc.

It seems to me that the internet has created a sense of entitlement, that if you can't hold it in your hand, it should be free.