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Steve Jobs Comments on Apple's Java Discontinuation

Apple's announcement that they would be ceasing future development of their version of Java for the Mac has generated concern amongst Java developers. Apple posted developer documentation Thursday stating that they would not be supporting Java for Mac OS X in the future:

As of the release of Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 3, the version of Java that is ported by Apple, and that ships with Mac OS X, is deprecated.

This means that the Apple-produced runtime will not be maintained at the same level, and may be removed from future versions of Mac OS X. The Java runtime shipping in Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, and Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, will continue to be supported and maintained through the standard support cycles of those products.

One concerned Java developer from Portico Systems emailed Steve Jobs asking about Apple's future plans for the Java programming language and platform on Mac OS X. Jobs' reply was:

Sun (now Oracle) supplies Java for all other platforms. They have their own release schedules, which are almost always different than ours, so the Java we ship is always a version behind. This may not be the best way to do it.

Oracle supplies Java for all other platforms except for the Mac. Due to differences in release schedules, Apple's implementation of Java is always a version behind. Jobs indicates "This may not be the best way to do it." He stops short of saying that Oracle will be stepping up to fill the void, but suggests that would be a better solution. Oracle has made no public announcements about their plans.

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18 months ago
Well hopefully, this will help quell the fears that people were having in the other thread. While there is no immediate solution, there wasn't he typical condemnation that Jobs dishes out when he has a vendetta against a technology.

I think/hope that Oracle is going to step up and offer it for MacOS X.
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18 months ago

I think/hope that Oracle is going to step up and offer it for MacOS X.


I'm sure they will. Maybe their version won't be quite as suitable when it comes to native-looking widgets, but Java has never been good in that department anyway.
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18 months ago
Who cares about damn java?????? Better say something about iWeb, Steve!!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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18 months ago
So now the waiting game is on for an Oracle supplied JVM for OS X.

If Oracle decides to make a JVM for OS X it should in theory be a net win for the Java using community.

So what say you, Oracle?
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18 months ago
Macs have cemented their place in the computer world, particularly developers. Oracle will not be able to ignore the Mac. I'm sure that is what Apple is counting on.
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18 months ago

Who cares about damn java?????? Better say something about effin' iWeb, Steve!!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


Surely you jest.
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18 months ago
That's reasonable but hopefully Apple will give Oracle the source code to all their work on Java so far. Java is currently the most important and widely used modern language so it needs to be well-supported. In fact, Apple should encourage Java's use because it means that a program which may have been Windows only will now run on OS X too.

Still, this doesn't answer why Java is BARRED FROM THE APP STORE (both iOS and OS X). I've used many great Java programs that are fast and well-integrated into OS X. Poker Copilot comes to mind.
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18 months ago
Oracle, this is time to shine on the Mac. Please do't screw it up like Adobe did; otherwise, well the consequences for Adobe now are clear.
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18 months ago
Being a version behind isn't really a bad thing. He should just look at it like everyone else is testing updates in the real world.

New unknown security bugs could be exploited while OS X wouldn't be affected because it would be on a previous build.

- YAY for not being on the bleeding edge
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18 months ago
different 'from' not different than.
I just corrected the grammar of a billionaire. I can check that off the bucket list.
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