Apple Unable to Find iPhone Partner in Europe?
"Operators consistently told us, not for attribution, of course, that they had spoken to Apple and found the company 'unbelievably arrogant', making demands that 'simply cannot be justified no matter how hot the product is'," Avi Greengart, a principal analyst at Current Analysis, wrote in an advisory on Monday.
Several operators went as far as to say they "will never offer the iPhone." It's been widely publicized that Apple has made several unconventional demands of their cell phone carriers. In the U.S., Verizon is reported to have rejected Apple's deal due to the terms of the agreement. Apple's terms with AT&T are rumored to include revenue sharing of the monthly subscriber fees for the iPhone.
The other option is for Apple to sell the iPhone directly to consumers without a Sim card, allowing users to later install one from their mobile provider. This, however, would require Apple to somehow bypass the provider's voicemail to enable their "Visual Voicemail" feature which requires server-side support.
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"Operators consistently told us, not for attribution, of course, that they had spoken to Apple and found the company 'unbelievably arrogant', making demands that 'simply cannot be justified no matter how hot the product is',"
Sounds like Apple alright :)
I believe it. Looks like they'll have to learn to play nice with their shiny new toy.
Maybe Apple will have to cave in and lessen their demands, which could be good for the consumer worldwide.
The other option offers is for Apple to sell the iPhone directly to consumers without a Sim card, allowing users to later install one from their mobile provider. This, however, would require Apple to somehow bypass the provider's voicemail to enable their "Visual Voicemail" feature which requires server-side support.
I would love to see that happen... the only explanation for it not happening already is the Voicemail.
I would love to see that happen... the only explanation for it not happening already is the Voicemail.
I was going to post exactly the same thing. I'm quite happy to give up visual voicemail if it means having an unlocked phone.
I would love to see that happen... the only explanation for it not happening already is the Voicemail.
You also neglect to realize that the phone is GSM, not CDMA. They are completely two different kinds of wireless networks, so there is other reasons beyond visual voicemail for the iPhone as we know it to work on other carriers. GSM is the most used type of network worldwide, so the current iPhone would work in Europe, but without a SIM would imply it is a CDMA phone, so no. No. um no.
Maybe Apple will have to cave in and lessen their demands, which could be good for the consumer worldwide.
Good? Good that Apple will, just to sell more phones, cave in to demands from yet another group of businessmen who have become fat and happy with their income stream and don't want to raise a finger to improve features that they perceive as good enough? C'mon... how is that good? I don't care how you feel about Apple or Steve Jobs or the iPhone, but you have to admit that the way Apple pounces into markets and stirs things up has already yielded loads of improvements that primarily benefits consumers.
but without a SIM would imply it is a CDMA phone, so no. No. um no.
No without a SIM would imply that it is unlocked and you can put whatever SIM you want in it.
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