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Intel's TurboMemory (aka Robson): Taking Another Look

Apple's recently upgraded MacBook Pro lineup features many new or upgraded features, but one feature many expected that is not present is Intel's TurboMemory (aka Robson NAND Flash Caching).

For review, Intel's TurboMemory is a technology that embeds flash memory onto a motherboard to allow for theoretically twice as fast boot times and speed improvements to frequently used files/applications as well as increased battery life.

However, TurboMemory's effectiveness has come into doubt recently, with benchmarks showing little to no performance improvement (1, 2). As such, HP today announced that it will not be including the technology on any of its Centrino Pro notebooks. From ZDNet:

Steve Doddridge, senior notebook technology consultant for HP Personal Systems Group for Europe, Middle East and Africa (EMEA), added: "We looked at the baseline system performance of a standard system (with 1GB of RAM) without any Robson or ReadyBoost type of technology added, and we then compared that to the same system with Robson, and the same system but just with an (equivalently sized) SD card or USB stick."
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The greatest improvement came as a result of adding more actual RAM to the system. "We added 1GB of RAM and saw a much higher improvement in performance compared to using any of the ReadyBoost or Robson technology," Doddridge said. He added that: "If you have enough system RAM in the system already, ReadyBoost doesn't give you a lot."


One of the key upgrades today was a boost to 2GB of RAM standard across the MacBook Pro line.

While it is premature to categorically say that Apple is not going to use TurboMemory in any of its machines, the speculation that had surrounded Apple's use of the technology may be less grounded then initially thought.

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61 months ago
Although this hybrid could potentially offer speed improvements.... I'm looking forward the the 'Thin' notebooks with pure flash storage :)
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61 months ago
my guess is that apple knows how nand flash prices will develop over the next year;)

and that means they know that everybody who needs long battery life and a fast HD can buy a 128GB solid state disk for $250-$300 with much better performance than robson. robson is dead.
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61 months ago
So, has there been any word yet on how much faster the new MBP's boot? :eek:
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61 months ago


While it is premature to categorically say that Apple is not going to use TurboMemory in any of its machines, the speculation that had surrounded Apple's use of the technology may be less grounded then initially thought.


Kind of a non-starter, then.. hmm. Guess once it's in RAM, it's in RAM...
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61 months ago
Hey, we got a free RAM upgrade in the base MBP, so be happy. Don't worry people, move along.
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61 months ago
Good thing Apple's maxing out the RAM at 4 GB in the MacBook Pros now.
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61 months ago

TurboMemory's effectiveness has come into doubt recently, with benchmarks showing little to no performance improvement


for review, given the details, what is the point of this story, since the point of debate has already been answered. in essence, we've essentially come full circle, as pointed out in the story.

in addition, what happened to pop the cherry dude's post? to further comment, it was the highlight of this, otherwise non story, thread.
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61 months ago
I'm sure it would have required Leopard anyway, which is delayed. Hence no Turbo memory.

Plus Apple will be an early adopter of Solid State Drives - no adopting Turbo Memory will make the jump from HDD to SSD more striking too.

By the time Leopard is out, Solid State Drives won't be far from being rolled out in the laptops so Turbo Memory will be skipped entirely.

A little bit of a shame though, it could help with the super slow 4200rpm 200GB and 250GB drives they offer.
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61 months ago
Yeah I've just ordered new MBP. Will change 160GB to 128GM SSD. Sandisk is gonna ship 64 GB in Q3 2007 below 500$ MSRP....
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61 months ago
I'm curious, though, if the relatively minor performance gains could just be because Windows and other current OS's haven't been written to use it...

If Leopard was programmed specifically to know how to cache itself for rapid boot times, might the performance gains actually be significant?
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