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iPhone Duo Survives 450,000 Folds, but Hinge is Weakening

For the last three weeks, CNET has been stress testing the iPhone Duo's hinge on a livestream. After over 451,000 folds, the hinge is showing signs of wear.


CNET says the hinge started feeling looser at the 390,000-fold point, and by 440,300 folds, there was enough of a shift in the mechanism that the screen didn't open in full before the machine closed it again, and there was no distinctive snap. It is 5 to 10 degrees from the fully open state and can be opened fully by hand.

The wire we use to open the phone screen would withdraw before the screen was in the fully open position, but it would then sort of "coast" the rest of the way down. But between 12:30 and 1 a.m. this morning, around 440,300 folds, the screen would no longer have time to open all the way before the Fold-a-Phone caused it to close again.

The ‌iPhone Duo‌ hasn't been removed from the folding machine, and the test is continuing. CNET says the device is still operational and maintaining other screen positions, with no signs of cracking or other failure.

The site plans to continue folding the ‌iPhone Duo‌ until it hits predetermined failure conditions that include loss of power, sensors failing to detect the screen properly, and screen blackout.

Apple hasn't shared the results of ‌iPhone Duo‌ hinge testing it likely did internally, or given an estimated fold lifespan.

The ‌iPhone Duo‌ is equipped with OLED panels sourced from Samsung Display, and Samsung's screens have undergone certified third-party fold testing. The display used for the Galaxy Z Fold7 passed a 500,000-fold durability test. Apple probably isn't using an off-the-shelf Samsung display, but CNET's testing already suggests the ‌iPhone Duo‌'s ‌OLED‌ panel is on track to match.

The combination of the display and the strength of Apple's hinge design will determine lifespan. At around 450,000 folds, the ‌iPhone Duo‌ would last over a decade at 100 folds per day.

CNET's livestream will continue until the ‌iPhone Duo‌ fails. The livestream runs on weekdays from 10 a.m. Pacific until 2 p.m. Pacific.

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turbineseaplane Avatar
43 minutes ago at 10:33 am
It got folded a half a MILLION times and it's weakening a bit.

oh no!
Thx Cnet!
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News at 11.

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AppleFan91 Avatar
43 minutes ago at 10:32 am

How many years of typical use is that? Its impressive nonetheless!
Per the article it’s ~ 100 folds a day for over a decade - aka, the phone will fail elsewhere or age out far before the screen/hinge from simple folding.

(Again, this is in a lab scenario with a mostly controlled environment, not real life use with kids, the elements, any sand or dirt,etc)

450,000 / 100 folds a day = 4,500 Days or ~12.32 years.

But in my usage, I’m unfolding my launch Duo probably 10-20x a day. So even at ~25 folds a day I’m good until like 2075 😂

Overall this isn’t a scientific test or probably as rigorous as the internal testing that Apple does, I’d assume, but it is fun to see how far it will go on CNET’s test.
Score: 8 Votes (Like | Disagree)
uacd Avatar
43 minutes ago at 10:32 am
CNET has been full of crap for many years already. They have long turned into “DXOmark” of tech devices. I doubt their tests are true whatsoever, maybe Apple sent them some “special” device with reinforced hinge so that it could survive
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)
MacUserFella Avatar
50 minutes ago at 10:26 am
"Rock survives rain, but is being weathered down"
Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Dr McKay Avatar
41 minutes ago at 10:34 am

How many years of typical use is that? Its impressive nonetheless!

Most people probably change their phone every 2/3 years typically? It’ll outlast it with ease before I would notice it.
Hard to find conclusive stats but I’ve seen 10-15 times a day quoted for the larger foldable styles, and 30-50 times a day for the flip phone style. Even at 50 times a day that’s nearly 25 years to hit 450K folds.
Score: 3 Votes (Like | Disagree)
R4IN Avatar
47 minutes ago at 10:28 am
How many years of typical use is that? Its impressive nonetheless!

Most people probably change their phone every 2/3 years typically? It’ll outlast it with ease before I would notice it.
Score: 2 Votes (Like | Disagree)
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