Notes of Interest on Thunderbolt and New MacBook Pros
- First, this Engadget video shows Thunderbolt in action on one of the new MacBook Pros, and does a good job showing the advantages of the faster bandwidth.
- CNet's live coverage reveals that there are no plans to offer Thunderbolt PCIe cards. In fact, Intel says that you will need a new computer/motherboard to get Thunderbolt. That means Mac Pro owners won't be able to add it on to their systems.
10:25 a.m. (Dong Ngo) : There won't be TB PCIe cards it seems. You'll need a new computer.
10:34 a.m. (Dong Ngo) : There won't be add-in TB adapters, you'll need a new computer/motherboard that supports TB.
At their press release, held shortly after Apples update when live, Intel noted that the developer kit for the interface would be provided to other computer manufacturers this spring, and that they didnt expect OEMs to ship with Thunderbolt until 2012.
- Engadget reports that Thunderbolt will be both backwards and forwards-compatible when it gets the new optical cabling:...the port you'll find in new MacBook Pros and storage devices can actually take an optical cable when those are cost-effective enough to roll out, because Intel will eventually bake the optical transceivers into the cables themselves.
- Many have noted the new MacBook Pros have shorter battery life specs than last year's MacBook Pros. TechCrunch notes that Apple has been using a different testing protocol to report battery life:Apple has begun using a new method of battery life testing. And they feel its much more accurate in real world scenarios. Specifically they call this the Wireless Web protocol testing.
We won't know until reviewers start testing them with identical benchmarks how much shorter the new MacBook Pro battery life actually is (if at all) as compared to the previous generation.iFixit's teardown of the new MacBook Pro shows the same battery capacity between last year's and this year's 15" model. So any differences will be a product of the new CPU/GPUs.
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(View all)And that begs the question: am I going to pay more for peripherals that support TB in the mean time? Nope. In reality if all I can use are USB and FW800 that's where my money will go.
I'm not saying this is a failure, as plenty of people with a TB connection will adopt peripherals that utilize it. However, I think it could be a slow process for a lot of people like me who are perfectly satisfied with USB 2.0.
10:25 a.m. (Dong Ngo) : There won't be TB PCIe cards it seems. You'll need a new computer.
10:34 a.m. (Dong Ngo) : There won't be add-in TB adapters, you'll need a new computer/motherboard that supports TB.
Always sticking it to the Mac Pro guys.... :mad:
I'm willing to bet a million dollars Apple asked Intel to purposely block implementation into PCIe cards, in order to force Mac Pro owners to upgrade.
Thanks for nothing, Intel/Apple.
[/I]Always sticking it to the Mac Pro guys.... :mad:
I'm willing to bet a million dollars Apple asked Intel to purposely block implementation into PCIe cards, in order to force Mac Pro owners to upgrade.
Thanks for nothing, Intel/Apple.
Yeah well, I suppose our 2008 Mac Pro's soon are in for an upgraded 2011 Mac Pro ;)
Although I can understand your point and have sympathy for it. I was honestly expecting a PCI-Express card as an upgrade option for adding Thunderbolt to, our still, great workstations. I see no technical reasons why it should be impossible. What I think they, Intel, really mean is that they are not going to supply a PCI-Express add-on card, although willing 3rd parties should be able to.
Hopefully some 3rd party will come up with it!
[/I]Always sticking it to the Mac Pro guys.... :mad:
I'm willing to bet a million dollars Apple asked Intel to purposely block implementation into PCIe cards, in order to force Mac Pro owners to upgrade.
Thanks for nothing, Intel/Apple.
I don't think it's physically POSSIBLE to create Thunderbolt add-in cards, for anyone. It's too low-level, unlike USB which can be plugged in via *existing* PCI Express lanes.
[/I]Always sticking it to the Mac Pro guys.... :mad:
I'm willing to bet a million dollars Apple asked Intel to purposely block implementation into PCIe cards, in order to force Mac Pro owners to upgrade.
Thanks for nothing, Intel/Apple.
Yep... Apple promote the Mac Pro as the powerhouse. The 1 truly expandable piece of hardware for pro market, and yet everytime there is an upgrade we get these fecking artificial lock outs.
Video cards gimped, PCIe cards gimped ?
Other than HDD and Memory, it seems Apple basically tell mac pro users to go ****** themselves every year or two.
This current Mac Pro I have, will be the last Mac Pro I own.
Um. A PCIe card cannot really add a PCIe interface with additional lanes, now can it?
I don't think it's physically POSSIBLE to create Thunderbolt add-in cards, for anyone. It's too low-level, unlike USB which can be plugged in via *existing* PCI Express lanes.
That and the fact that Thunderbolt uses a display line in addition to the PCIe line to the controller.
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