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Palm Reports Apple to USB Compliance Organization Over iTunes Syncing Issues

In a statement made to Digital Daily yesterday, Palm acknowledges firing yet another salvo in the ongoing dispute between Apple and Palm over the Palm Pre's ability to sync iTunes media by emulating an iPod, claiming that it has reported Apple to the USB Implementers Forum for improper use of the Vendor ID used to identify devices using the USB interface.

"Palm has released webOS 1.1, which, along with offering more robust EAS support for business users, re-enables Palm media sync," said company spokesperson Lynn Fox. "Palm believes that openness and interoperability offer better experiences for users by allowing them the freedom to use the content they own without interference across devices and services, so on behalf of consumers, we have notified the USB Implementers Forum of what we believe is improper use of the Vendor ID number by another member."

Palm's webOS 1.1 update issued yesterday restores the syncing connectivity broken by Apple last week with the release of iTunes 8.2.1.

As PreCentral points out, the move is a bold statement by Palm given the company's apparent misuse of Apple's USB Vendor ID in order to permit iTunes media syncing.

I just plugged my 1.1 Pre into my Mac in Media Sync mode and sure enough, it's identifying itself with an Apple USB Vendor ID:

Product ID: 0x8002
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 0.16
Manufacturer: Palm Inc.

Such use of another manufacturer's Vendor ID is "strictly prohibited" by the USB Implementers Forum:

When you apply for a USB Vendor ID, you sign a form that explicitly states that:

"Unauthorized use of assigned or unassigned USB Vendor ID Numbers and associated Product ID Numbers are strictly prohibited."

Based on Palm's actions, it appears that the company believes that Apple's refusal to allow open access to iTunes via USB is a severe enough violation of the relatively open nature of the USB standards that it is willing to violate standards itself in order to work around Apple's restrictions.

We can make a guess: USB being a relatively open (albeit opt-in) 'standard,' either Palm thinks it's improper for iTunes to only allow connectivity with certain Vendor IDs. Since they feel they're in the right there, I guess they don't mind wading into the gray area of spoofing another company's USB Vendor ID.

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33 months ago
Let me guess whats next, Apple will call Palm a stupi-face and Palm will come and take Apples crayons away.

Guys - grow up, this tattletale stuff is BS.
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33 months ago
This is war!
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33 months ago
One should think that if they were confident enough in their product line Apple wouldn´t care about this.
But they sure do
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33 months ago
So you hack itunes to pretend you're and ipod and then report Apple? The audacity of these folks. :mad:
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33 months ago

This is war!


World War 3!
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33 months ago
If I owned a pre I would love for it to sync with iTunes. However, Apple spent money acquiring iTunes parts and pieces and money and time developing it. Palm doesn't have a right to use it without paying something to apple.

I love palm and their products but they are wrong on this one.
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33 months ago

So you hack itunes to pretend you're and ipod and then report Apple? The audacity of these folks. :mad:


Palm doesn't hack iTunes
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33 months ago

So you hack itunes to pretend you're and ipod and then report Apple? The audacity of these folks. :mad:


Indeed. This is starting to go into the same direction as Psystar.
Someone @ Palm must really hold a grunge against Apple for taking this road.
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33 months ago

Palm doesn't hack iTunes


Then how did itunes recognize the Pre as an ipod and why is it now recognizing the Pre as being made by Apple? :rolleyes:
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33 months ago
I sense this wont get very far before Apple put a stop to it! Look what's happening to Pystar for doing something not totally dissimilar...
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