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Adobe Photoshop CS4 to be 64-Bit for Windows, 32-Bit for Mac

Adobe's John Nack writes about the future plans for Adobe Photoshop CS4 and CS5, revealing that Adobe Photoshop CS4 will include 64-Bit support, but for Windows only. The Mac version of CS4 will remain at 32-Bit. The reason for the discrepancy, however, is not due to a lack of interest or support from Adobe, but for more practical reasons.

First off, Nack admits that the 64-bit version of Photoshop will see modest speed increases (8-12%) but the biggest advantage will be for those using massive images (a 3.375 gigapixel image is given as an example). With these massive sizes and with enough RAM (32GB given as example), you can see substantial (10x) improvements.

Adobe expects that Mac users will have to wait until CS5 before getting full 64-bit support. The reason for this delay is due to Apple's abrupt dropping of Carbon 64-bit support:

At the WWDC show last June, however, Adobe & other developers learned that Apple had decided to stop their Carbon 64 efforts. This means that 64-bit Mac apps need to be written to use Cocoa (as Lightroom is) instead of Carbon. This means that we'll need to rewrite large parts of Photoshop and its plug-ins (potentially affecting over a million lines of code) to move it from Carbon to Cocoa.


Nack reports that they started working on the transition immediately after the announcement but due to the scope of the transition are unable to deliver it by CS4. He also tries to dispel the notion that Cocoa alone will produce a higher quality product than Carbon:

Most Mac users don't know Cocoa from Ovaltine, and nor should they: it's just an implementation detail, not a measure of quality. I think Brent Simmons, creator of wonderful Cocoa apps like NetNewsWire, put it most elegantly: "Finder + Cocoa = Finder." That is, rewriting one's app in Cocoa doesn't somehow automatically improve its speed, usability, or feature set.

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50 months ago
ModNote™: Merged thread OP. --mkrishnan

CNet's reporting that the CS4 version of Photoshop for the Mac won't be 64bit, however the Windows version will be.

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Read the original here: http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9909725-39.html?tag=nefd.blgs
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50 months ago

CNet's reporting that the CS4 version of Photoshop for the Mac won't be 64bit, however the Windows version will be.


CS4 already??? wow what more could there be hahaha i love mah CS3 Extended haha

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50 months ago

CNet's reporting that the CS4 version of Photoshop for the Mac won't be 64bit, however the Windows version will be.


Why would you want it to be 64 bits? Image files larger than 4GB?
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50 months ago
"We're not going to ship 64-bit native for Mac with CS4," Nack said. "We respect Apple's need to balance their resources and make decisions right for that platform. But it does have an impact on developers."

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"When they chose not to do Carbon 64, we had to reevaluate our road map for getting there," Nack said. The company immediately assigned new programmers to the Cocoa switch "so we could make this transition as fast as possible, but as the saying goes, nine women can't make a baby in a month. You can only proceed at a certain pace," he said.

Looks more like a resource problem for Adobe, as they've had since 2001 to move from Carbon to Cocoa.

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"The Carbon-to-Cocoa switch was simply too massive to push back CS4 for a couple months, he added."

Meh. Adobe continues to become more arrogant with each release. I didn't purchase CS2 because it didn't offer anything extraordinary over CS1. The only reason I even purchased CS3 was because I needed Intel compatibility. I think I'll skip CS4 just like I'm skipping Office 2008. :rolleyes:
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50 months ago
Apple did great! Adobe might have had the idea of Carbon being supported and developed forever, so by not developing it to 64 bits Apple forced Adobe to finally code their software more efficiently. Sure, it takes its time, but they must do it now if they want to stay on OSX platform in the future.

CS4 looks like a version that I'm going to skip over. Hopefully CS5 comes before 2011...
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50 months ago
Interestingly enough, Lightroom 2 apparently is 64 bit … so they can do it if they want to ;)
I think Apple's move is smart, plus Adobe has had plenty of warning. Now let's see what Quark does :D
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50 months ago
Don't turn the pros against you.

Now that Aperture has plugin support, it's just a matter of that line where a given person can shed Photoshop. For some, it may be right around the corner, for others, about the time a 32 bit CS4 comes out. It will take a TON to convince me to buy CS4. Don't get me wrong, i am happy to have CS3, but they are getting a little smug, aren't they?
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50 months ago

Don't turn the pros against you.
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.......................but they are getting a little smug, aren't they?


Man Adope really fries my cojones,
can't believe they're still behaving like this.

I've been using PSD since v3.0 and I was so glad I managed to snag it with a Microtek scanner, though the upgrade $ path has been steep.
I'm with you, I doubt very much that I will be moving up? from CS3
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50 months ago
This is a poor excuse, especially when considering carbon actually took more code for conversion than does
Cocoa.
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50 months ago
Seeing that Lightroom 2.0 was written in Cocoa and now supports 64-bit, I don't suppose anyone know's what is used for Premiere Pro and Soundbooth, that have just returned to Mac and are Intel only. I would think that the RAM requirements for video editing are even greater than photo editing, so Premiere Pro would be a great candidate for 64-bit support if it is written in Cocoa.
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