UK, France, Germany iPhone Soon?

Exciting, glad i'm an 02 select customer hopefully they'll sort me out with an iPhone as i sort them out with lots of money. This should bring in a new era of competitive pricing plans regarding data as 02 is currently very poor in this regard.

iphone hitting UK mobile phone market soon?

oh boy! that would be fun *grin* ..

I'm hugely disappointed about Apple going with O2 in the UK. They are expensive and there customer service outside of the business arena has always left me wanting more. They bet get more competitive with data plans because right now they are the worst by a long shot. The lack of an Edge network is all questionable.

I really don't see why Apple didn't stick with T-Mobile in the UK as well as most of the other big countries in Europe. For me this means no iPhone, I refuse flatly to go back to O2. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to just import a T-Mobile Phone and put in my simcard and use it in the UK. There is no roaming issue between T-Mobile countries so the sims can't be specific.

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While i agree 02 data plans are terrible, their customer service (like all o f the phone copmpanies) is poor. But T-Mobile seriously they have such poor coverage in comparision, and i'm not just talking about my locale, I've tested it all over, Liverpool, Watford, Birmingham, Sheffield, Nottingham, Bath, London.

I really don't see why Apple didn't stick with T-Mobile in the UK as well as most of the other big countries in Europe. For me this means no iPhone, I refuse flatly to go back to O2. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to just import a T-Mobile Phone and put in my simcard and use it in the UK. There is no roaming issue between T-Mobile countries so the sims can't be specific.

Yea, we're hoping for that here in the US with getting a European T-Mobile iPhone, but my feeling is:

US iTunes Account + US T-Mobile SIM + German T-Mobile iPhone = iTunes Alert, "Sorry, your iPhone cannot be activated.."

any updates to the phones for 3g for you europeans? Would you consider this as downgrade if their is no 3g?

I can add a few bits in to this;

- o2 are looking at an 'unlimited data' tariff at the moment with a target price of £20 per month. This is in direct response to T-Mobiles £1 a day data tariff.

- They are also looking to bring forward plans to introduce age validation on PAYG tariffs for web browsing. At the moment you are restricted to o2 approved wap sites for browsing with PAYG in an effort to protect minors. Age verification would essentially mean visiting a store with some ID which will allow the restriction to be removed from your account. The early introduction of this scheme could possibly point to a PAYG iPhone.

- It definitely won't be 3G (o2 have spent the last 2 months testing it on gprs, so unless Apple have kept 3G secret, it's not happening).

- o2 have just reduced the price of the N95 to free on contract, which wasn't planned to happen until October. This suggests a possible iPhone launch in October (my speculation).

I can add a few bits in to this;

- It definitely won't be 3G (o2 have spent the last 2 months testing it on gprs, so unless Apple have kept 3G secret, it's not happening).

GPRS?! im not going back 5 years in phone technology thanks, ill pass.

I'm hugely disappointed about Apple going with O2 in the UK. They are expensive and there customer service outside of the business arena has always left me wanting more. They bet get more competitive with data plans because right now they are the worst by a long shot. The lack of an Edge network is all questionable.

I really don't see why Apple didn't stick with T-Mobile in the UK as well as most of the other big countries in Europe. For me this means no iPhone, I refuse flatly to go back to O2. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to just import a T-Mobile Phone and put in my simcard and use it in the UK. There is no roaming issue between T-Mobile countries so the sims can't be specific.

They had to pick someone... and all the networks have unhappy customers.
I'm with T Mobile and it has the worst reception of any phone I've owned in the past 10 years. I used to be with Orange, and they really are awful - especially the customer service.

I can't imagine O2 being any worse on either count.

How fast is GPRS?

EDIT: Just realised i have gprs on my nokia n70 at the moment... its so slow (even on mob ile modified sites) - i'm gutted about this!