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Amid Weakened NAND Flash Demand, Apple Reportedly Looking to Negotiate Long-Term Deals

DigiTimes reports that industry demand for NAND flash memory of the type used in iPhones, iPod touches, and now iPads has been relatively weak of late, but Apple has been reluctant to enter into deals with suppliers who have taken steps to prop up prices by limiting the supply reaching the market. According to the report, Apple is now preparing, however, to assert its influence over the market and begin negotiations for longer-term contracts as it undoubtedly begins to ramp toward another iPhone revision later this year.

NAND flash demand has been weak, but pricing has been stable as major suppliers are limiting their supply to the market.

But the sources said Apple may start negotiating long-term supply contracts with its chip partners in the second quarter. Apple's demand will continue to play a significant role in the NAND flash industry in 2010.

A report last October suggested that NAND supply-demand balance would tip back into positive territory early this year after the holiday rush, but tight supplies are again a concern as Apple looks to soak up more of the available industry capacity.

In 2005, Apple announced a long-term NAND flash memory agreement with a number of suppliers that was expected to carry through 2010, although Apple's product lineup has obviously grown by leaps and bounds since that time with tremendous growth in its iPod line accompanied by the iPhone and now the iPad.

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25 months ago
NAND is out, quantum storage is in.
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25 months ago
Nothing but good news in this.
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25 months ago

Nothing but good news in this.

Good news for Apple and its customers.

Not so good news for Apple's competitors and their customers who might end up paying higher prices for NAND, especially if they buy on the spot market.

As an AAPL stockholder, I encourage Apple to use their position to leverage better prices for components. It's a fine way to run your business and increase shareholder value.
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25 months ago
Where are my 64GB & 128GB iPhones? :)
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25 months ago

Nothing but good news in this.


Definitely, but I'm sure someone will complain about it somehow. :)
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25 months ago

Definitely, but I'm sure someone will complain about it somehow. :)

Let's see, which complaint will it be?

"OMG, why is Apple wasting its time with NAND? Why aren't they upgrading the MacBook Pro?"

Or AppleTV. Or 30" Cinema Display. Or Mac Pro. Or Final Cut Express. Or iPhone OS. Or OpenGL ES 3.0. Or some random printer driver. Or...

Just take your pick. The whiners are headed this way...

;)
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25 months ago

Where are my 64GB & 128GB iPhones? :)

The 64GB iPhone is somewhere in Cupertino on a tray draped under black cloth or locked up in a secure engineering lab.

The 128GB iPhone is stored in someone's CAD project file. It probably won't boot up for another nine months so don't hold your breath.

:D
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25 months ago
Wasn't there just a story in the fall about how people were complaining that Apple had sucked up all the available supply of NAND chips being produced through a good portion of this year? How the HECK can demand be DOWN if there's little available supply out there for non-Apple products??? If anything I would think Demand is high and supply is low!
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25 months ago

Wasn't there just a story in the fall about how people were complaining that Apple had sucked up all the available supply of NAND chips being produced through a good portion of this year? How the HECK can demand be DOWN if there's little available supply out there for non-Apple products??? If anything I would think Demand is high and supply is low!

Well, if the people complaining about it were forum commenters, we now know how much their opinions weigh. ;)

Apple made a $500M prepayment to Toshiba last July for NAND memory, but analysts noted that amounts to about one quarter's worth of chip supplies for Apple.

What Apple is probably doing is posting occasional larger orders that suck up short-term availability of the highest-capacity NAND memory modules, shutting out their competitors desirous of the same parts.
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25 months ago

The 64GB iPhone is somewhere in Cupertino on a tray draped under black cloth or locked up in a secure engineering lab.

The 128GB iPhone is stored in someone's CAD project file. It probably won't boot up for another nine months so don't hold your breath.

:D


In all seriousness though, I LOVE to see a 64GB iPhone and 128 GB iPod Touch this year. Unless there is a complete redesign of both, though, that would mean that 64 GB flash modules would have to be available at a reasonable price, and given that NAND flash prices have been steady, the cost of putting a 64 GB module in either would be way too costly. Too bad, though, since that means I have to hold onto my now seemingly really dated160 GB iPod Classic another year.

Tony
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