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iFixit's Galaxy Z Fold8 Teardown is a Preview of Apple's Foldable Challenges

Samsung launched new foldable smartphones earlier this month, including the Galaxy Z Fold8. If you didn't know it was a Samsung device, you might look at it and think it's Apple's foldable because it matches rumors about the iPhone Ultra so well.


The Z Fold8 is likely to be the closest competitor to the foldable ‌iPhone Ultra‌, which makes iFixit's teardown of Samsung's smartphone an interesting read. Will Apple's foldable have some of the same troubles as the Z Fold8, or has Apple solved the issues plaguing foldable smartphones?

Hinges have been a failure point on foldable smartphones, and it's a design problem Samsung hasn't been able to solve. The Fold8 has a dust-and-water ingress rating of IP48, so it's resistant to water, but not to dust. It's hard to keep dust away from a smartphone, and when dust gets inside, it gums up the hinge mechanism and it fails.

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iFixit did a dust test on the Z Fold8, putting particulates in the hinge. It resulted in "truly awful crunching and grinding noises" and then the device stopped opening normally. Dust that made its way into the hinge did stay out of many of the sealed portions of the phone, but if a foldable smartphone isn't folding, there's still a major issue.

An IP4X dust rating means the Z Fold8 is resistant to particles 1mm in size and greater, but as iFixit found, many sand and dust particles are smaller than that. iFixit said beach sand measured 0.16mm, and the powder it used was 0.04mm.

Samsung used a new hinge design for the Z Fold8 and added a titanium-reinforced display structure that helps the screen open flatter, but it couldn't get rid of the crease entirely. Creases in foldables can become more visible over time as the device is opened and closed, and a recent Tom's Guide review said the crease in the Z Fold8 became more visible after just seven days.

iFixit was not impressed with the repairability of the Z Fold8, and it earned a repairability score of 4/10. The bezel around the inner display broke into pieces as it was removed, and there's no way to get to the hinge without removing the display. Batteries also aren't easy to replace because doing so requires removing the outer display. "It's an expensive, painful repair even when everything goes right," said iFixit.

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The Z Fold8 has a tablet-like look and feel with a 5.5-inch screen when closed and a 7.6-inch screen when open. Most of Samsung's prior foldables have been tall and narrow, but this one is closer to an iPad mini, and its dimensions nearly match those rumored for Apple's foldable.

Apple waited to make a foldable iPhone because it wanted a device that had a minimal crease. Rumors suggest it is using a display panel created by Samsung Display and liquid metal for the hinge, along with optically clear adhesive to make the crease disappear as much as possible.

iFixit will likely do the same hinge test when the foldable iPhone comes out, and we'll know whether Apple "solved" the crease and hinge issue or will be dealing with the same problems. The foldable ‌iPhone Ultra‌ will be introduced at Apple's annual September event alongside the iPhone 18 Pro models.

Google's new Pixel 11 Pro Fold has an IP68 dust-and-water-resistance rating with a gearless hinge design, so it will presumably fare better than the Z Fold8 in a dust exposure test. It launches on August 20.

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Top Rated Comments

baryon Avatar
9 weeks ago
Just when they finally eliminated all moving parts from smartphones, removed the headphone jack, made many of the buttons haptic, etc, to create a better seal, now let's make the whole phone fold in half with a complex mechanical hinge...

I like the idea of having an iPad Mini in my pocket but it's a shame that we're going to undo many years of painful progress towards repairability and durability and pay a higher price for it. I mean not me, I'm sticking to regular old normal smartphones.
Score: 13 Votes (Like | Disagree)
9 weeks ago
I didn't "get" the iPad when it was announced... I had to hold one in my hands and fiddle with it before I understood its appeal and utility (I still dont own one though most of my friends and family love theirs).

Guess I will have to see and play with a folding iPhone, because... well, the only experience I have had with a folding phone was the guy I saw at the airport who OBVIOUSLY wanted everyone to see that he had one, and frankly it looked awkward and he looked like a total goober while using it...
Score: 12 Votes (Like | Disagree)
snipr125 Avatar
9 weeks ago
Well people, just make sure you get Apple Care with your iPhone Ultra! Crunching and grinding noises!
Score: 10 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Slo Pesci Avatar
9 weeks ago
I was aware dust could get in the hinge, but it got actually inside the body of the phone and even around the camera. That's a bad look. I don't see why apples would be any different to be honest.
Score: 7 Votes (Like | Disagree)
klasma Avatar
9 weeks ago

I guess folks (myself included) will assume that if it has a strong water certification, this will also include dust. Liquid vs solid particles after all.
At least it means you can wash out the solid particles. ;)
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)
contacos Avatar
9 weeks ago

I’ll definitely take a different phone to the beach knowing all this now!
I always put mine in a zip lock bag from the kitchen when I take it to a beach. I am on my 4th foldable and non of them have failed me. One time I was even hit by a sand storm dune dashing in Oman, showered in sand and it thankfully survived unharmed. Just like with any phone, it really comes down to bad luck. Your regular phone can also crack with one wrong fall but may survive 30 other similar falls.
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)
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