PowerMac Delays

I lost all my hope that we will see anything before WWDC. :(

arg... so should I buy or not?

This is not a "new" rumor.. it's just a comprehension of previous rumors...
it is very -- maybe too -- quiet on the Apple rumor front..

I lost all my hope that we will see anything before WWDC. :(

Why? What's so special about WWDC? If the product is being delayed due to production problems, it suggests Apple is waiting until they have actual product ready to ship before they announce it. If that's the case, why would they wait until WWDC? I think this news means if they have it ready April 25, they'll announce it April 26.

... that's for sure. Things have been way too quiet recently, and my guess is that this has nothing to do with a lack of chips.

I think we may see something more radical in the coming months - you don't spend $500M on R&D for a chip upgrade.

It's going to be a remarkable year - just not as soon as we'd all like.

One month ago I sold my dear G4/933 to buy a dual G5, but my honest reseller (luckily here we don't have Apple Stores here) told me: "it's better to wait, the new models should be out by the end of march" ... and my long waiting started :( , reading every day all of the Mac rumors sites.
I don't believe the 970FX cooling issue is true because Apple already started shipping the Xserve G5, with the same CPU in a much smaller case, and the now contradicted graphic card delay sounds odd to me, considering that Apple (and eventually ATI) had more than 9 months to decide which card they should mount on the G5 revB and to produce many pieces of them.
Today I checked the PM G5 avalaibility for the two Apple distributors here in Italy and each of them still has about 40 1.6 GHz, 120 dual 1.8 and 80 dual 2.0, with some few dozens still to come. At the actual selling rate they should last about 2-3 weeks.
My thought is that Apple is simply waiting to empty its stock while making more money now than before by selling us (or at least trying to sell) the revA G5 at the same price they sold it 9 months ago; if the new models should be announced now the old ones shall have a significant price rebate, with a consequent money loss for Apple. Probably they are also assembling plenty of revB G5s just now, to be able to ship them as soon as they are announced avoiding the usual and hated "shipping in 4-6-8-10 weeks".
I also think that they can't directly jump from the actual 2 GHz to 3 GHz because of at least the following matters:
- they never did such a speed bump before, probably because a similar thing could arise many technical problems
- the Xserve just started shipping with a 2 GHz clock, hence they can't sell a "desktop" that is almost 50% faster than the top server
- it would not be correct at all for the customers to sell a 3.0 GHz model at the same price a 2.0 GHz had few days before (but maybe Apple doesn't take much care of what is correct for its customers :mad: )
Moreover, they can't mount on all of the revB models a dual processor because they need at least a "entry level" G5, and until the iMac G5 is out they will leave the low revB model with a single CPU
Nevertheless Apple usually updates each product line every 6-7 months and the last PM update was almost 10 months ago (except the dual 1.8 on november) hence I think that Apple must announce in the next weeks some new models will be out (something to extensively test the new 970FX and "prepare" it for the 3.0 GHz bump, like single 2.0, dual 2.2, dual 2.4), bigger disks (120-250 GB), more memory (512MB - 1GB) and better graphic cards, but the real bang will be at WWDC, where they could announce the PB G5 "The first 64bit notebook" (while Asus already ships a notebook mounting the AMD's 64 bit chip :eek: ) a G5 equipped iMac "The first 64 bit soccer ball" and the 3.0 GHz PowerMacs "More bit power", many of them to be shipped on september (after all the summer ends in september, so Jobs could mantain what he promised last year).
C'mon Apple, at least tell us when the new G5s are to be announced!

Is there anybody from Apple scheduled to speak? Just thinkging out loud . . .

*yawn*

No-one's going to tell you when, because people will wait longer for a set date than they will for an undefined one. Businesses have gone under by giving customers a reason to wait longer before buying. The apple dealer doesn't know any more than you do, he's just reading the rumor sites like everyone else.

I ordered a current dual 1.8 last monday, because I know that even if new models are announced tomorrow, I won't see _mine_ arrive in Australia for months, so I'd rather have a very fast computer today than a very very fast one two or three months or more from now.

My view on these "rumors" of cooling problems is that it's what someone has suggested as possibility (because everyone knows fast computers are hot) and others have now reported as "rumor", which people here will translate into "fact". It's amazing that Apple can produce machines *twice* as fast as their previous line, then can't sell them because suddenly people are deciding that's not a big enough jump and they want another one! (The G5 I am buying should work out more than four times faster than my current eMac, easily.)

Of course, I will be avoiding all rumor sites, online apple stores and computing news sites for three months after mine arrives, just to be be safe. ;)

Since the Xserve G5 was delayed for a while after the initial announcement, I wonder if the availability of the new 90nm PowerPC 970 processors might be the holdup, rather than cooling issues. Given that the current generation of G5s seem to have no problem with quiet cooling, and the 90nm PowerPC 970 chips should run cooler than the 130nm versions, I can't see how cooling would be an issue. We should remember that the PowerPC 970 produces much less heat than comparable Pentium 4 and AMD chips...which run happily week in, week out, in systems which much cruder cooling systems than the PowerMac G5. Sure, the G5 runs warm, but it's not the scorching nuclear furnace that people make it out to be. The elaborate cooling system of the G5 PowerMac is like that to keep thing cool and QUIET.

Or I could be talking out my arse. Regardless, this isn't good news. Those 1st generation G5 PowerMacs were announced a long time ago. And I'm sure I'm not alone here, but I know of more than one person who is holding out on a PowerMac purchase until Rev B comes along.