New Apple Mouse and Keyboard... Soon

Poor apple. Get a 2 button mouse. Is it that hard? Jeesh....

Oh wait, I want to get info on this item



or just right click----get info

The second option is more simple, and Apple likes to be simple...

Well if they're not BT and the mouse ain't multi-button, what's gonna be so great about them? The BT was never a big deal to me anyway, but IMHO the single button mouse needs to be put to rest... or at least a BTO.

Apple bets on simplicity. It annoys some persons and others love it.

Yes!

We NEED a 2-button mouse tho, please!!

maybe scroll whell?

please!

I really don't understand why Apple is sticking with the one-button mouse--especially now that Apple is trying to shift to an OS X-only policy. I can hold down CTRL just as well as the next fellow, but I'd rather just use my Logitech mouse with one hand. Honestly, I wonder if there's a "snob factor" here by Steve who gave us the wonderful hockey-puck mouse and the left-hand warmer that is the 12 inch PowerBook. OK, that was a bit harsh there, but I really do wonder why Apple is sticking to a one-button mouse. :confused:

boo...I it would be cool if apple reinvented the mouse based on those skematics with the "iPod" wheel, but F' them if they don't. Buy 3rd party mice...

the one-button mouse is a huge thing for apple-- always has been-- it just says "see, sit down, calm down, things are simple over here". Apple has always (successfully IMHO) argued that a one-button mouse is superior because it's less the user has to deal with physically.

switching to a multiple button mouse would be saying "okay, windows world, you were right these past 25 years, we're going to become more like you to help ourselves survive". i dont think that's a statement apple is prepared to make at this point.

pnw

Originally posted by sawaguchishinji
Apple bets on simplicity. It annoys some persons and others love it.

Two-button mice annoy me to no end. I am one of those people that always ends up right clicking when I mean to left click or vice versa. I like to control-click because I have to make a purposeful move in order to do it, can't hit it by accident and have those annoying menus pop up when you don't want them. I have a two-button mouse with a scroll wheel - it sits in a drawer unused.

Also, I like the Apple Pro mouse because you basically just mash with your hand. Satisfying to squish. I work with lots of computer newbies, and boy, putting two buttons on mice just confuses the heck out of them - much of the mainstream is still getting the hang of ONE button, lol. You think it's crazy, but it's true. That's why there are third-party mice, I suppose. It would be funny if someday I had to buy an Apple Pro mouse to replace whatever two-button mouse came with the computer. Get a taste of how the other half lives, I guess! :p

Originally posted by MacAztec
Oh wait, I want to get info on this item



or just right click----get info

The second option is more simple, and Apple likes to be simple...

How about Apple+I? Is that not simple enough?

Let's not forget that Apple is the company that produces the best interfaces out there. Like it or not, the multi-button mouse is just bad design and the reason Apple stays away from it (IMO) is that they know it's bad design. I expect that if they ever do release a multi-button mouse, it will be done in such a way that everyone who uses a multi-button mouse will look at it and say "Now why haven't these things been done this way all along?" That takes time and money to research and develop. The control+click menu was put there for convenience, but it's not a built-in part of the system (i.e., not reinforced by the presence of a second button) so that problem doesn't occur (yet.)

There should be no reason for multiple buttons and contextual menus, and the presence of multiple buttons gives way to lazy interface decisions. All functionality in a program should be accessible through its menus (and by extension, its key commands.) What the multiple button mouse leads to is horrible interface problems. Ever used a Windows machine and had to hunt endlessly to find out where you had to right-click to find the thing you're seeking because the developer failed to put it in the menu bar? I've dealt with that enough on Windows and don't want that kind of lousy interface design infecting my Mac.

Just IMO. Frankly, after having dealt with the half-baked crud that passes for the Windows interface for so long, the Mac's simplified approach works for me. I'm not eager to see Apple mess with it to please a bunch of people who have been taught to expect bad design.

Originally posted by inkswamp
How about Apple+I? Is that not simple enough?

Let's not forget that Apple is the company that produces the best interfaces out there. Like it or not, the multi-button mouse is just bad design and the reason Apple stays away from it (IMO) is that they know it's bad design. I expect that if they ever do release a multi-button mouse, it will be done in such a way that everyone who uses a multi-button mouse will look at it and say "Now why haven't these things been done this way all along?" That takes time and money to research and develop. The control+click menu was put there for convenience, but it's not a built-in part of the system (i.e., not reinforced by the presence of a second button) so that problem doesn't occur (yet.)

There should be no reason for multiple buttons and contextual menus, and the presence of multiple buttons gives way to lazy interface decisions. All functionality in a program should be accessible through its menus (and by extension, its key commands.) What the multiple button mouse leads to is horrible interface problems. Ever used a Windows machine and had to hunt endlessly to find out where you had to right-click to find the thing you're seeking because the developer failed to put it in the menu bar? I've dealt with that enough on Windows and don't want that kind of lousy interface design infecting my Mac.

Just IMO. Frankly, after having dealt with the half-baked crud that passes for the Windows interface for so long, the Mac's simplified approach works for me. I'm not eager to see Apple mess with it to please a bunch of people who have been taught to expect bad design.

Why should I have to mouse up to the menu or perform keyboard gymnastics just to get info and/or maniuplate the "ojbect" my mouse is currently resting on?

Rt click->Show info vs. click->perform excessive movement to hit command+i.

Different needs for different users but I find the 5 completely programmable buttons and scroll wheel on my mouse d@mn near indispensable when using FCP, PS, and AE. And very convient for use w/"everyday" applications. Although I think the Pro mouse looks much better than mine I don't use it 'cause, IMO, it's inferior to multi-button mice. But my biggest pet peeve is that even on the highest "speed" setting is still way too slow for my taste.


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