Mac OS X 10.3 Panther Details

basically just educated guessing. that website is such a mystery sometimes. they go from nearly outlandish things to just hohum predictions.

I thought journaling was already in OS X...

I think there is some sort of option to enable it...

It slows down the system a very little bit, iirc.

[Edit: OK, I'm an idiot... but what other features are we talking about?]

[Edit2: Disregard this post. I need to RTF Article]

I think it's great that Apple is competing so well in the operating system market with Windows. The next version of Windows (codenamed Windows Longhorn due out in the end of 2004, I think) will also have this journaled filesystem, capability, if I'm not mistaken.

Does anyone know the similarities of the journaled file system between Mac OS X and Windows Longhorn? I'm curious. Thanks!

OSX already has Journaling in the FS. What we need is

64bit support.
Efficient use of multithreading.

extensive Metadata. This is like adding a liteweight Database to the system. Searching for files would become much easier for applications as they'd just query from a list of attributes that follow that chunk of data.

I guess an easy way of explaining it would be. You know how when you're searching for songs in iTunes you just keep feeding data into the search field and the more data you input the smaller your "results" list becomes. Now imagine that and more in the FS itself.

Anything that resides on the HD can be ordered up in a list and shown in different views and lists. It doesn't sound powerful but in reality features like that will save you time as HD keep getting bigger and bigger.

I'd assume that iApps would become faster as they could just poll the FS for the files and metadata they need eliminating one layer of complexity.

So///let's say this is true....Would this be worth 129 dollars?

1. I wouldn't be surprised to see this as a low-cost ($20 or so, free at Apple Stores) upgrade similar to 10.1 after all the fuss about Jaguar, which was worth every penny, IMO, but opinions vary.

2. Is it just me, or do OS X upgrades bring better performance to existing machines, while upgrades to Windows mean upgrading your machine to wade through the resulting bloatware? Think different, indeed... :)

I loved the BeOS file search system... truly instantaneous. The only comparable search system is simple database searching.. but that's such a pain because you have to update the database each time you want to make a search. No more of that :D



irmongoose

I am somewhat familiar with journaling under Linux.
I use journaling on my filesystems with my embedded Linux projects. I read an article once (from Redhat) about journaling and it can be faster than non-journaled. My main reason is for faster boots. Booting is usually not an issue. I have never had a kernel panic or crash. Strange behaviour yes. I've thought I've crashed Linux, but it was really me pulling the rug out from under it. I removed it's filesystem. It didn't crash. It recovered when I gave it it's filesystem back. Cool :cool:
But I have tasks that write to a log file and the pwoer to the board could be lost, so journaling is wise!
I don't know how windows journalling would compare to OS X ( or Linux), but my NT 4 and Win 2K machines are not nearly as stable as my Linux or OS X machines.

Originally posted by chewbaccapits
So///let's say this is true....Would this be worth 129 dollars?

The only question i have is..how much time? I believe you just can't toss in a new FS and expect everything to run without a hitch. Each FS enables new features but I don't believe it's as transparent to 3rd parties as we'd like. I'll be curious to see if any more light is shed on this. I don't think the FS alone would be worthy of $129 but it's forward thinking for the future. I think it might entail a gradual change over the next few years rather than an abrubt change.

Originally posted by chewbaccapits
So///let's say this is true....Would this be worth 129 dollars?

Hmm I don't know if you are going to feel it's money well spent, but there is a good chance it is going to be WORTH $129.

NicoMan